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re: Tucker Carlson rips Soleimani killing: 'Washington has wanted war with Iran for decades'

Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:48 pm to
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He is a loud and proud non-interventionist


Is he?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41598 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:50 pm to
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regardless of who's President? 

My initial statement
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well, right now nearly all of the DimMedia is against Trump's military actions against Iran's terrorist network operations.

If a Democrat were in office, they'd be cheering it. The point is, Tucker is consistent in opposing military action in that part of the world. He isn't a partisan.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:53 pm to
Trump has been vigilant in opposing any kind of war, and even the ultra hawks in his cabinet like Pompeo. Now, all of a sudden there’s unquestioned, undeniable intelligence that they’re planning on attacking us? Excuse me if I’m a little skeptical of our intelligence agencies.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:55 pm to
We conflated an Iraqi attack, with some kind of Iranian menace. And in the process we’ve provoked an unnecessary fight that could lead to a regional war.

Iran isn’t a threat to American security.

China is.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 2:56 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:55 pm to
Tucker GOAT.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41598 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:56 pm to
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I'm so confused about "retaliation for storming our embassy and rocket attack killing an American civilian" = "permanent war". How does that work?? 

Tucker has been talking about this issue for years, long before Soleimani. There hasn't been a day since the Korean War began 70 years ago that the United States hasn't been engaged in either open or covert warfare around the globe. And given our history in that part of the world how could one not be concerned about an escalation?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127470 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:56 pm to
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The point is, Tucker is consistent in opposing military action in that part of the world.


Now he is? Or he was then?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76821 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:57 pm to
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Now he is? Or he was then?
Pretty sure he has always held that stance.

Correct me on that if I’m wrong.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:58 pm to
He supported the war in Iraq initially
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:59 pm to
He supported the invasion of Iraq.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79374 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:59 pm to
I like Tucker but he’s wrong...
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41598 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:01 pm to
He's followed the path of former NC congressman Walter Jones. Initially supported the Iraq War and a year later said he was ashamed to have supported it and said never again. He supported Ron Paul's candidacies and has been openly critical of neoconservatism and internationalism since being on Fox.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:01 pm to
As the rationale for the war fell apart, I think he began to question his own positions.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:01 pm to
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His position on this is just ignorant. We killed a known Terrorist that was literally in the process of developing even more casualties. Tucker can eat a dick and shut the hell up on this one

To be fair

His position is that there shouldn't be any American troops in the area for the Iranians to plot against
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76821 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:01 pm to
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He supported the invasion of Iraq.

Yea, I just found the reference to that:

Carlson initially supported the Iraq War. However, a year after the invasion of Iraq, he began criticizing the war, telling The New York Observer: "I think it's a total nightmare and disaster, and I'm ashamed that I went against my own instincts in supporting it. It's something I'll never do again.

That is from Wiki.

At least he recognized that he was wrong and admitted it.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41598 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:02 pm to
So did Glenn Greenwald. Then he became the journalist most opposed to American foreign policy and empire.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35755 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:03 pm to
I'm seeing it as killing of an Iranian terrorist on Iraqi soil, where we have the operational ability to do so. And operarional authority as far as I'm concerned. He was the common denominator in many American deaths as well as many, many civilian deaths both in his own country and throughout the region.

Say we'd pulled out of the M.E. with the exception of 2 bases. One in Kuwait.....if Iran were to sail a missle into Kuwait and it hit an American base.

Are we not to retaliate given the possibility that it could draw us into a larger situation?

Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39436 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:05 pm to
Yea he woke up to what was really happening and had enough integrity to admit he was wrong
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35755 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:05 pm to
See question above....I am interested in your thoughts on that as well.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127470 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:06 pm to
He believes that the Levant is too uncivilized to rule. Not because he believes in non-interventionism anywhere.
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