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re: Update: Situation in Iran thread
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:34 pm to PurpleCrush
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:34 pm to PurpleCrush
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Explain the sudden love for the Iranians. Thats what I don't get. Remember they shot boucoup bombs at the Joos not long ago and we were outraged?
Explanation- The Persian people didn’t shoot one “boucoup bomb”. Never have.
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:35 pm to Boodis Man
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thought Iranians hated this guy. They called his father a puppet of the west (which he was) and ran him out of country. I dont believe he would be welcomed there as a ruler....no way
Western perception is massively titled towards the opinions of the Iranian diaspora and the Internet people in country that they parrot.
They aren’t happy with the ayatollah, but they also ran the monarchy out on a rail, twice. No one is itching for that back. There’s almost 100 million people in Iran. Any future power vacuum will be a total shitshow, devoid of any consensus.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:35 pm to Boodis Man
quote:People who think that way are the older generations. The younger folks did not experience the brutality under the Shah.
I thought Iranians hated this guy. They called his father a puppet of the west (which he was) and ran him out of country.
I dont believe he would be welcomed there as a ruler....no way
Monarchy is not the answer. Free and fair democratic elections overseen by the United States is the way
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:36 pm to TexasTiger33
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If you don't see how regime change there is in our best interests, you have a major lack of understanding of geopolitics
In a fantasy world where we could choose who replaces them, sure.
That has never occurred anywhere we’ve tried it.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:36 pm to Indefatigable
Aint nobody choosing shite except the people there. You can tell that by what's going on now
and again you have no earthly clue about the mentality and attitudes towards the west held by the people
I can tell you now they don't respect any democrat or liberals in the US or Europe
and again you have no earthly clue about the mentality and attitudes towards the west held by the people
I can tell you now they don't respect any democrat or liberals in the US or Europe
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:36 pm to TexasTiger33
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Free and fair democratic elections overseen by the United States is the way
It hasn’t even been a decade since we left that part of the world and people are already clamoring for more central Asian nation-building.
Unbelievable.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:37 pm to TexasTiger33
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Aint nobody choosing shite except the people there. You can tell that by what's going on now
And yet you want us to spend ungodly amounts of money “overseeing” whatever comes next.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:38 pm to Indefatigable
quote:You live in a fantasy world. This is ONE WORLD and if we don't set the rules, someone else is going to
It hasn’t even been a decade since we left that part of the world and people are already clamoring for more central Asian nation-building.
Unbelievable.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:39 pm to Indefatigable
quote:I'd love to see your breakdown of the costs. Sources and uses statement
And yet you want us to spend ungodly amounts of money “overseeing” whatever comes next.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:40 pm to TexasTiger33
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You live in a fantasy world. This is ONE WORLD and if we don't set the rules, someone else is going to
What planet are you on? Is there any instance of success in this sort of enterprise out of the many we’ve undertaken in the last 100 years that you can point me to?
I have no idea why you’d think we’d be remotely successful.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:40 pm to Indefatigable
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And yet you want us to spend ungodly amounts of money “overseeing” whatever comes next.
I just want to see a few precision strikes to cut the regime cut off at the knees and let the Iranian people decide their own fate.
There aren't many options worst than the Islamic State in control now. At least China and Russia will have to re-establish a new relationship with a new government who watched them do nothing when the last one was deposed.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:41 pm to TexasTiger33
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I'd love to see your breakdown of the costs. Sources and uses statement
“Overseeing” some sort of forcibly peaceful transition will take tens of thousands of people on the ground, at least, for years. Many billions of dollars.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:41 pm to TexasTiger33
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Monarchy is not the answer. Free and fair democratic elections overseen by the United States is the way
Yes this worked perfectly in Iraq and Afghanistan
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:41 pm to Boss13
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just want to see a few precision strikes to cut the regime cut off at the knees and let the Iranian people decide their own fate.
So abject chaos
Why do you care about “the Iranian people”? This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:42 pm to Indefatigable
You just do not understand the difference between different nations in that region. This is not Iraq or Aghanistan. You are not educated on this matter and speak from a place of talking points you read on twitter and not real life understanding
That or you're a paid shill
That or you're a paid shill
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:44 pm to TexasTiger33
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You just do not understand the difference between different nations in that region. This is not Iraq or Aghanistan. You are not educated on this matter and speak from a place of talking points you read on twitter and not real life understanding That or you're a paid shill
Of course it’s a different country than either. You clearly are either ignoring or are unaware of the fractured nature of the Iranian public to begin with.
When that regime eventually collapses, there will be years of armed conflict and insurgency to replace it.
Besides, my point is that your model doesn’t work ANYWHERE and never has.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:45 pm to BBONDS25
I’m starting to worry Trump will listen to Israel and hold off.
I wouldn’t trust them one bit here. They’d love nothing more than to see Iranians butchered and the country fall into a bloody civil war and keep the Middle East destabilized. They profit off all the chaos over there and they don’t want a secular, strong Iran that the western world opens up business to.
I hope Trump does what’s right here, don’t be fooled by listening to anyone else especially Israel and the Arab states. All of them benefit from an unstable Iran at war with itself.
I wouldn’t trust them one bit here. They’d love nothing more than to see Iranians butchered and the country fall into a bloody civil war and keep the Middle East destabilized. They profit off all the chaos over there and they don’t want a secular, strong Iran that the western world opens up business to.
I hope Trump does what’s right here, don’t be fooled by listening to anyone else especially Israel and the Arab states. All of them benefit from an unstable Iran at war with itself.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:45 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Have you been there or do you have a crystal ball?
When that regime eventually collapses, there will be years of armed conflict and insurgency to replace it.
People like you are really the worst because you think you're smart and people who don't know better read what you say and take it as truth when in reality you have probably never even been to the ME and know very little about the truth
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:45 pm to deltaland
quote:1000%
I hope Trump does what’s right here, don’t be fooled by listening to anyone else especially Israel and the Arab states.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:47 pm to TexasTiger33
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Have you been there or do you have a crystal ball?
I’m judging the situation based on every single example of similar exercises and abrupt regime changes in modern history.
But yea, I’m sure that all 100 million Iranians will come together and peacefully adopt parliamentary democracy as soon as the mullahs move into their dachas
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