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Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:02 am to tide06
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Reality is unless the manufacturers quickly revert back to pre CAFE power rains (V8s rather than turbos, non ) I’ll have to accept buying an overpriced lemon within the next 12-24 months because there are currently no alternatives on the market for full size SUVs and trucks.
I had to hold my nose and buy back in April. Old truck wasn't going to pass emissions last year and too expensive to fix. Used car market is fricked. Bought new and had to overpay otherwise the light truck inventory leaves the lot within 48 hours.
This post was edited on 1/7/26 at 10:05 am
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:08 am to AUMIS01
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I had to hold my nose and buy back in April. Old truck wasn't going to pass emissions this year and too expensive to fix. Used car market is fricked. Bought new and had to overpay otherwise the light truck inventory leaves the lot within 48 hours.
I've always been a toyota/lexus guy and buy certified preowned but the window and pricing on the reliable vehicles doesn't really make sense at the moment.
I just can't stomach spending $100k on a vehicle that I don't think is any more reliable from a powertrain standpoint than the pre-covid Mercedes/GM/Range options I used to turn my nose up at due to maintenance issues.
Considering getting something smaller and cheaper to ride it out as a bridge vehicle hoping Trump's changes save us eventually from this world of crappy powertrains.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:13 am to Gunny Hartman
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Maybe sales are improving partly because automakers are free to sell vehicles that the public actually wants instead of half-baked EVs.
When I get my Toyota and Lexus cars serviced I browse the showroom. In 2025 it was nothing but EVs and Hybrids. No just-gas engines. The reason is simple. They are pushing the cars that aren't selling well.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:20 am to tide06
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Considering getting something smaller and cheaper to ride it out as a bridge vehicle hoping Trump's changes save us eventually from this world of crappy powertrains.
I looked into buying something used with cash that would run for 3-5 years and buy time but just nothing out there that made sense. Either overpriced used up garbage or newer pre-owned with prices semi-comparable to brand new. Just no middle ground decent metal for a fair price.
If they drop Hilux into the American market for a reasonable price I'm buying one immediately and only using the new truck only when absolutely necessary.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:23 am to stout
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In 2025, GM sold nearly 700,000 Chevrolet and Buick models with starting prices below $30,000.
I know GM is performing VERY well with trucks and truck-based SUVs. But I've been very impressed with their low end offerings as of late. Cars like the new Trax and Trailblazer appear to be very competitive, aggressively priced, and the people who buy them actually seem to like them. I was convinced that Buick was on life support, but their newer products actually seem to be popular. They make one hatchback crossover thing that is popular and looks way more expensive than it actually is. That's a segment that they've struggled with historically.
Ford has been pushing a lot of sub prime lending for their trucks lately, but they still move a lot of them. And I'm not a big fan of their smaller, lower end products like the Bronco Sport.....they are creative designs and they are wildly popular. Ford did very well there and deserves props. The little Maverick pickup is insanely popular. It's a good, creative design on the lower end of the auto market, which is an area Ford has struggled with in the past.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:23 am to AUMIS01
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If they drop Hilux into the American market for a reasonable price I'm buying one immediately and only using the new truck only when absolutely necessary.
Just a heads up, apparently the hilux they're bringing has a super tiny cab which doesn't fit most americans so unless they make updates the super budget options are out for me even if the engine and simplicity are very appealing.
What Toyota needs to do is bring back a 1st Gen type 4Runner with a removable top and the NA V6. They wouldn't be able to keep them on the lot.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:25 am to tide06
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Considering getting something smaller and cheaper to ride it out as a bridge vehicle hoping Trump's changes save us eventually from this world of crappy powertrains.
Pricing is insane now. If I were to get a 6th gen 4Runner with the same trim level an options as my 5th gen TRD model....I'd get a bigger screen and slightly more engine power. But I'd also be getting a less reliable turbo motor, a much cheaper feeling interior, unfinished black plastic door handles, unfinished black plastic over fenders, no real gain in interior space, and a $12,000 higher price tag. It's debatable if it's a step up where it counts, and in many ways its a step down. I need a little more interior space, and the new model doesn't address that.
And don't get me started on the new shrunken Land Cruiser, which combines most of the above with a $20,000 higher price tag than my 5th gen 4Runner TRD. For the price of a brand new full sized Yukon or Expedition...Toyota won't even bother applying a paint finish on the rear bumper on that model, and I'm forced to get a hybrid powertrain that I don't want- and somehow that eats up cargo volume which may make that a step back from my current ride.
So my attitude is that my next vehicle will be cheap by modern standards - likely in the $40k-$50k range. And I won't do it until my current vehicle is truly worn out. It's a 4.0L Toyota, so it might be a while.....
I will eventually go for a used Ford Ranger or Chevrolet Colorado (or similar) that aren't nice enough to worry about if they get scratched or dented. Both are reliable enough to run for 150,000 miles with decent maintenance, and they can tow 3+ tons. They are every bit as capable as full sized trucks were in the 1990s....and while they won't be as reliable as my 5th gen 4Runner, they are likely well above average by modern standards and much better than 1990s pickup trucks as the miles add up.
If GM, Toyota, and Ford can somehow unwind some of these mandated fuel economy tricks and tech and goes back to a more basic V8 engine, I might even pull the trigger on a full sized. But otherwise....if I'm taking on the risk of twin turbo motors, super thin oil requirements, 8+ speed transmissions, and cylinder deactiviation - I'm going to expect a substantial discount and will seek out fire sales.
This post was edited on 1/7/26 at 10:38 am
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:27 am to stout
Bought myself a Tesla in December. Absolutely love it.
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