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re: Vitamin K shots for newborns
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:19 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:19 pm to SallysHuman
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That there isn't a vaccine widely used in the US for TB... debating immigration and disease is made more interesting in the absence of vaccine.
But the morphology of the disease makes it a terrible analogy. It takes quite a lot to get infected, there is a latent stage which can avoid detection and the screening requirements for participation in anything make it easy to catch and treat.
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:22 pm to crazy4lsu
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But the morphology of the disease makes it a terrible analogy. It takes quite a lot to get infected, there is a latent stage which can avoid detection and the screening requirements for participation in anything make it easy to catch and treat.
It's still interesting to me.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:29 pm to SallysHuman
I mean, the trend of disease burden of immigrants remains pretty consistent even when you focus on diseases which are not endemic or native to the US. There isn't really evidence from those numbers to support a notion that 'open borders' contributes negatively to anything. From that perspective, there has been little to note.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:33 pm to crazy4lsu
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There isn't really evidence from those numbers to support a notion that 'open borders' contributes negatively to anything. From that perspective, there has been little to note.
Open borders takes it from a 0.7 up to a 2.9... that is a three-fold difference.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:37 pm to SallysHuman
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Open borders takes it from a 0.7 up to a 2.9... that is a three-fold difference.
But the death numbers have rarely exceeded 600 people regardless, which suggests the burden is not heavy, nor has the burden from non-US born people changed all that much from its historical averages. TB is not difficult to treat and there are so many safeguards which necessitate intervention that it is barely a burden at all.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:39 pm to crazy4lsu
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But the death numbers have rarely exceeded 600 people regardless
I think we both know disease burden isn't simply death toll.
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In public health, disease burden is the overall impact of a health condition on a population, measured by mortality (deaths), morbidity (illness/disability), financial costs, and lost healthy years. It's often quantified using standardized metrics like Disability-Adjusted Life Years (DALYs), where one DALY equals one year of healthy life lost due to premature death or disability, helping prioritize health interventions.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:44 pm to SallysHuman
Yes and none of that undermines my point. For TB in particular, in order to participate in public life, there are several steps needed. From the skin test to the blood test to a chest X-ray to treatment. There are several other diseases which have a far greater disease burden. Arguably, metabolic disease from that immigrant class might be even harder to treat because of both its ubiquity and differences in approaches to food.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:51 pm to crazy4lsu
I don't know if I've seen one poster completely destroy another poster more than Sally has to crazy4lsu.
I laughed throughout.
I laughed throughout.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:53 pm to moneyg
Poor thing.
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