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Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96271 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:24 pm to
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boosie, stop using big words


Judgeholden is booises alter. Now it makes sense
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:26 pm to
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There is a huge difference between a complaint and a pack of lies. So far it appears she brought forth lies. And this isn't the typical high ranking officer stuff they can sweep under the rug. It's in the news cycle, it adversely affected another officer, and it makes the Army look bad.


Don't underestimate the politics of the situation. This is a female officer in the middle of the #metoo bullshite. She will be quietly transferred to a dead end post and out of the Army in the next 3-5 years and that will be the end of it.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:27 pm to
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Burden is on the asserter.


You are alone in this thread asserting that her sources are unreliable. It should be an easy point to prove.

Proving that not once has she been wrong in over a year is nearly impossible to prove. I don't have the time or inclination for that.

But please, continue on being you.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17118 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:30 pm to
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Pena, who is still active military and assigned to the White House Military Office, did not follow proper protocol to report on the allegations. Instead, she went directly to the Senate with the support of some current and former White House medical staff who were her loyalists.


A man hating Obama holdover was the culprit? Along with her bitch pals?? Well just imagine me having the most shocked face right now!

And booting this bunch will dry up some of those “anonymous source” leaks.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:33 pm to
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Don't underestimate the politics of the situation. This is a female officer in the middle of the #metoo bullshite. She will be quietly transferred to a dead end post and out of the Army in the next 3-5 years and that will be the end of it.


Perhaps but I believe the political optics tilt in favor of demonstrable punishment. If she's going to cry 'me too' she'll do it with a shitty set of orders and the senior rater comments that will end her prospects of future promotion - and she'll be able to paint that picture if she wants. Far better to counsel - put a GOMOR and POTUS reprimand in her file - send to an admin board or courts martial - and let a panel of officers decide her fate. She'll have no firm ground from which to argue from in that situation. Good thing about DC is that they'll have no trouble getting a panel together. Lot of rank in that area.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:35 pm to
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Perhaps but I believe the political optics tilt in favor of demonstrable punishment. If she's going to cry 'me too' she'll do it with a shitty set of orders and the senior rater comments that will end her prospects of future promotion - and she'll be able to paint that picture if she wants. Far better to counsel - put a GOMOR and POTUS reprimand in her file - send to an admin board or courts martial - and let a panel of officers decide her fate. She'll have no firm ground from which to argue from in that situation. Good thing about DC is that they'll have no trouble getting a panel together. Lot of rank in that area.




I just know how many of these type of situations I investigated while in CID that when it turned out the woman was obviously lying no official actions were taken against her. She was simply blackballed in some shite hole assignment until she left the service of her own accord.

Enlisted being treated completely different of course.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7273 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:38 pm to
Does anyone have a picture of this c(u)nt?
Does she have cultua?
Obama disciple?
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:38 pm to
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I just know how many of these type of situations I investigated while in CID that when it turned out the woman was obviously lying no official actions were taken against her. She was simply blackballed in some shite hole assignment until she left the service of her own accord.


Yeah....we'll see.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:40 pm to
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Yeah....we'll see.



Not saying it can't happen, just saying how I've seen the Army work. Above a certain rank it's all about politics. If this woman has a powerful ally, she's bullet proof, even from the President in some cases.

Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:44 pm to
Anxiously awaiting the backlash & well deserved repercussions.

Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14941 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:15 pm to
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Sara Carter has earned the credibility she currently has with non-hacks. She's not some no name dip shite at WaPo or CNN claiming every Trump staffer as their inside source.


CNN also reported this.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11066 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:17 pm to
My guess is that Pence is behind this. He being a good Christian doesn't like the type of drunken, drugged up behavior of Ronny Jackson.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:32 pm to
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You are alone in this thread asserting that her sources are unreliable. It should be an easy point to prove.



Crowd logic. You know better than that. And I’m asserting that unnamed sources are inherently unreliable.

And I’m asserting that this board’s belief in unnamed sources depends largely on the political persuasion of the reporter.

What the “alone” part proves is that I’m willing to question where you aren’t. I’ll gladly stay out of your herd.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20989 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28361 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:51 pm to
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Sara Carter = Real Journalist



My fondest hope is that there is a generation of young journalism students, of all political leanings, who are watching Sara Carter and realizing that journalism was once an important and honorable calling.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7273 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:53 pm to
Found a pic of her. She looks exactly like the (c) unt that roasted Shara Sanders at the WHCD. Exactly like her. Figures
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
42714 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:13 pm to
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Depending on how the CSA (Chief of Staff, Army) wants to view this situation, this Army doc could be up for Article 107 False Official Statement. That would automatically lead to Article 134 Conduct Unbecoming an Officer. But Art 134 could be on the table as a stand alone. And yes, that could be courts martial material. 

Trump is CIC and can dismiss this Army doc from service entirely, but that doc would get retirement and all that. The other they can do is have an administrative hearing to entertain the equivalent of those two articles, but with a lower burden of proof - if guilty they can recommend separation for misconduct which could lead to loss of pension, depending on the circumstances. 

If this is true, however, I would expect to see an official reprimand from Trump and from the CSA, and then the unceremonious retirement of this doctor.


Well stated.

Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:24 pm to
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IMHO she should be shamed, sued for defamation, fired, and stripped of her pension by the military.


Absolutely without a doubt, immediately
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 9:55 pm to
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is your sig pic?


Trystero
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 4:00 am to
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Trystero


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