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Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:58 pm to
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Rumble and Bannon did not have this data.


Huh?

I started a thread early this morning with the two sites that had released opinions and polls. They were both left leaning sites like the OP provided. Politico and BBC.

I’ve never seen Bannon.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:00 pm to
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I started a thread early this morning with the two sites that had released opinions and polls. They were both left leaning sites like the OP provided. Politico and BBC.


Yeah I wonder why Left Leaning sites would hate Desantis

They are literally teaming up with Trump against Desantis. He went to dinner with Dana freaking Bash the night before, and Rob Filipkowski admitted he's coordinating with Team Trump to attack Desantis
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69853 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:00 pm to
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Everyone knew this was the case last night (except the guys who only get news from Trump social media influencers).




I don't think everyone knew anything last night. I saw people say Desantis killed, Desantis bombed, Vivek killed it, Vivek bombed, and a similar smattering for other candidates.

And I damn well know you and the first person who said this didn't expect Vivek to shoot up that much. Partial credit for the unfavorable side.
Posted by B2BWWchamps
Jasper, FL
Member since Aug 2023
672 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

They really, really, REALLY want him to be the nominee.


I guess it depends on who you mean by "they"

the people filing the papers sure don't but maybe you are talking about someone above them all, pulling the strings
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:01 pm to
Are you under the impression WaPo and Nate Silver aren’t hugely left leaning?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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128658 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:02 pm to
Echelon's Pollster (and a guy who people love to post here)

quote:

Patrick Ruffini
@PatrickRuffini
The debate clearly helped Haley and DeSantis and polarized views of Ramaswamy, whose unfavorables more than doubled.

Trump down. He lost ground by not being on stage
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:02 pm to
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Fun Bunch


Read the article.

I know exactly what I'm talking about

The "primary voters" aren't people who watched the debate

The "debate watchers" started and ended at 67% for DeSantis
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128658 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:03 pm to
They are.

This is data. Not some winners and losers column that is subjective.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:03 pm to
You missed a data point.

quote:

Notably, debate watchers are slightly less likely to say they will consider supporting Trump after the debate (61 percent now, 66 percent before).
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22937 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:04 pm to
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The "debate watchers" started and ended at 67% for DeSantis

Is 62% now 67%?
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 3:05 pm
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19018 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:04 pm to
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Asa will drop out because he won't make the next debate and that is it for him.
Why the hell did he enter the race? Seriously? Did he think he has a shot at the cabinet?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:05 pm to
How is it possible that Trump dropped when 700 million people scrolled over his Tucker interview!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470964 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:05 pm to
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Why the hell did he enter the race?

It made HHTM feel good, for one thing.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22937 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:05 pm to
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Why the hell did he enter the race?

He wanted more of that Walmart money and he can try and parlay it into being an MSNBC analyst for attacking Trump.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142406 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

Not some winners and losers column that is subjective


Using potential voters vs likely voters and trying to arrive at a conclusion from “will consider” is highly subjective.
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
4538 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:06 pm to
Out of the 3 million people that actually watched a primary debate.

News flash, no undecided voters watch primary debates, much less know they are even happening.

It’s 80% political junkies that know who they are voting for .
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2185 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:06 pm to
I didn't see it.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22811 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Why the hell did he enter the race? Seriously? Did he think he has a shot at the cabinet?



CNN/MSNBC gig
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
1018 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:08 pm to
Fun bunch.. This shows THE SAME THING.

DeSantis's opponents GOT STRONGER

Haley +13.80% (65.5-51.7)
Christie +11.8% (35.2-23.4)
Ramaswamy +10.2% (60.4-50.2)
DeSantis +4.9% (72.4-67.5)
Pence +4.6% (42.6-38)



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