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re: We are being lied to…
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:30 am to Nurbis
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:30 am to Nurbis
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I have seen another video that guessed the object flying from the right side of his head was an earpiece and not blood splatter. The earpiece cord was clipped to the left collar of his shirt and wrapped around behind his neck. So when he is hit, the earpiece flies off, pulling the shirt, which is why the shirt jumps.
Why would you need a fake shooter? What is the benefit? And it isn't like Harvey Lee Oswald, where they caught him and he denied doing it. Robinson admitted it and turned himself in. Why would he and his family go along with that?
It appears this will be an open & shut case but there's still so much that doesn't sit well with me.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:44 am to Nikki_T
We are being lied to but you better make sure to shut the frick about it
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:46 am to AUTigerking
That guy is full of crap, no way that's a 30.06 exit wound on the front of his throat...It would have been much larger.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:34 am to AUTigerking
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AUTigerking
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Watch the fricking video, prick
Shut the frick up, you dumbass motherfricker. I have zero patience for cancers like you pushing bullshite like this. frick you!
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:07 am to AUTigerking
I watched it the day of and anyone trying to say that wasn’t a frontal shot is full of shite.
I’ve seen the exact same thing happen on both other humans (with almost identical shot placement) 3 times. I’ve seen similar shot placement twice on elk.
I’ve seen the exact same thing happen on both other humans (with almost identical shot placement) 3 times. I’ve seen similar shot placement twice on elk.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:15 am to RobertFootball
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All I know for 100% certain is his that was an exit wound we all saw on tv, that wasn’t an entrance wound
Sarcasm.... right????
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:17 am to AZHorn
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That guy is full of crap, no way that's a 30.06 exit wound on the front of his throat...It would have been much larger.
The only folks believing that was wound from a 30.06 exiting a human neck are ones that have zero experience with hunting rifles/hunting.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:28 am to lake chuck fan
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The only folks believing that was wound from a 30.06 exiting a human neck are ones that have zero experience with hunting rifles/hunting.
You've identified the problem. I've been shooting guns for almost 50 years. I was never a big hunter, but between the (real) Boy Scouts, the Army and just recreational shooting, I've fired 10s of thousands of rounds. A couple of thousand just from automatic weapons.
Many, many Americans live a firearm free life. There is nothing inherently wrong with that for a person with no such interest, but then they have no practical experience and don't understand issues like this when they come up. They are particularly susceptible to propaganda on gun control, but I digress.
For those of you out there who have lived such a firearm free existence, I'll break it down for you: Bullets do weird things. They're made by man and subject to variances in manufacturing even in batches of identical rounds. There are varieties of cartridges within a caliber for different purposes. Different weights, different amount of powder, different shapes of bullets, etc. Rifle bullets are faster, typically, than pistol bullets. More powder, longer barrel for a longer burn time. Over a 200 to 300 yard travel distance, the wind and even humidity can affect the path. Any intervening obstacle will affect the path and can splinter and create projectiles of its own. The human body itself is of inconsistent construction (bone, ligament, tendon, muscle, organs will all react differently to a gunshot) with bone fragments becoming a mechanism of injury to both the person shot and potentially bystanders.
It isn't like the movies - at all.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 6:30 am
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:32 am to RobertFootball
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All I know for 100% certain is his that was an exit wound we all saw on tv, that wasn’t an entrance wound.
Based on the shooters angle, isn’t it possible the entrance and exit were both on the same side of the neck?
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:43 am to YMCA
I think the shooter was aiming for the head and missed due to nerves and wind. Unfortunately for Charlie it hit him in the carotid artery. A few mm to his left and it misses him completely.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:47 am to eitek1
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Watch all the footage of the event from the beginning prior to him getting shot. There are a few times you can CLEARLY see the outline of a plate under his shirt. It’s obvious.
Incredible morphing Ironman nano armor.
There are MORE than a few times where his shirt is perfectly formed to his chest.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:48 am to icecreamsnowball
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Shut the frick up, you dumbass motherfricker. I have zero patience for cancers like you pushing bullshite like this. frick you!
I’m a “cancer” because I want the truth? What did Charlie push for every single day? I’m sorry you have no patience for views outside of what the fbi tells you.
The same fbi by the way that gave us: fisa warrants, Russia Russia Russia, Epstein secrets, mar a lago, J6, strok and Paige, James comey, and many more fine examples of the job they do.
Forgive me if I’m a little hesitant to take them at their word
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:50 am to Nurbis
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The earpiece cord was clipped to the left collar of his shirt and wrapped around behind his neck. So when he is hit, the earpiece flies off, pulling the shirt, which is why the shirt jumps.
This doesn't make any sense though from a physical mechanism perspective.
The earpiece cord, that wasn't under enough tension to disturb the "hang" of his shirt, suddenly AND prior to the bullet hitting his neck, instantly developed significant tension, sufficient to rip itself off of the shirt all while pulling it upward in a violent motion hard enough to pull the shirt up high enough to cover his neck?
You may be right, but I just don't see how it's possible.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 6:58 am to pankReb
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There are MORE than a few times where his shirt is perfectly formed to his chest.
Watching the video I can see both sides. In some places it doesn't look like there could be anything under his shirt. While seated though, the geometric shape of what looks like a plate is clearly outlined in his shirt.
There is something we can agree on though, something effected his shirt violently before the bullet struck him. I'm just not sure how that happens unless the bullet hits his chest and is deflected upwards.
I could be 100% wrong though. It just seems like the simplest answer.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:09 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
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I think the shooter was aiming for the head and missed due to nerves and wind.
He may have miscalculated bullet drop. There are a million things that could have happened.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:12 am to eitek1
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Watching the video I can see both sides. In some places it doesn't look like there could be anything under his shirt. While seated though, the geometric shape of what looks like a plate is clearly outlined in his shirt. There is something we can agree on though, something effected his shirt violently before the bullet struck him. I'm just not sure how that happens unless the bullet hits his chest and is deflected upwards.
There are two possible options.
1: there is an invisible armor plate that magically appears upon contact with a bullet.
2: there was never an armor plate and you’re just seeing the shirt move because of the air displaced from the bullet.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:15 am to AUTigerking
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I’m a “cancer” because I want the truth?
You don’t. And it’s unclear that you know how the world works.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:27 am to AUTigerking
What exactly would be the point of shooting him from behind but then claiming it came from the front? If there really was a patsy why not have him and the actual shooter located in the same direction?
Think about it, if you were planning this out why would you ever think to do it that way? When it would be obvious which way the bullet came from? This is a ridiculous theory, besides not matching up with the video footage, it doesnt even make sense logically.
Think about it, if you were planning this out why would you ever think to do it that way? When it would be obvious which way the bullet came from? This is a ridiculous theory, besides not matching up with the video footage, it doesnt even make sense logically.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:36 am to AUTigerking
It really is baffling to me that so many are just eating up this botched investigation as fact. Idk if it’s blind Trump appointee loyalty (I.E. Kash Patel) or they just refuse to ask questions or believe their own eyes. And I AM 10000% a Trump supporter. Yes i question the dissembling, reassembling, dissembling, then reassembling of the hunting rifle. Yes I question the “30-06 entry wound” with no exit wound, according to the official report. Even though 99% of the time there would be a large exit wound from that round. 100% of my very own real-life experience has seen a subsonic 308 round do WAY more damage with significantly less power/gunpowder in a strikingly similar situation/wound. But this has been argued here that “bullets do weird things” and “well maybe it just didn’t exit”…blah blah blah. Why was a plane flying without radar just after the incident from the nearest airport. The same plane that funded the $1million reward?? And don’t say “because they didn’t want to be shot down”. IMO, you have some overly loyal simple-Simon MF’ers who think you’re a conspiracy theorist if you don’t believe what the FBI puts out word for word. The same people that had this happened under Biden’s watch would be questioning the FBI wholeheartedly. And again, I’m 1 billion % MAGA. Just doesn’t make sense to me when there’s obvious holes and inconsistencies with this investigation.
Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:01 am to Ace Midnight
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It isn't like the movies - at all.
Certainly not ---
I have hunted all my life - had 30-06 as my primary rifle since early 60s - Reloaded my own rounds for several decades - have seen lots of effects on animals from skunks to antelope to mule deer.
I have only watched the Kirk video twice - and still have the same thoughts as my very first reaction when I saw the neck wound = he's dead on the spot.
BUT - I do recall my first analytical thought after the shock
= What about the background? I did not see anything indicating the bullet intersected anything in the background, or any blood splatter.
NOW - I am seeing spurious comments about other shooters, some from behind - bullets lodging in the skin - and other 'miracle bullet' scenarios.
What the heck IS going on?
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