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re: "We Need a Limited Military Draft"
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:36 pm to Don Quixote
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:36 pm to Don Quixote
Easiest thing would be to just draft out of everyone on government assistance first . Then each ethnicity should be drafted by their population percentage. Women should be eligible for the draft too.
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:46 pm to Don Quixote
“American confidence in the military is at a low”
No Sh*T???
No Sh*T???
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:50 pm to deeprig9
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100% disagree. This is a horrible take. What more can an immigrant do to show loyalty to their new country than to put their lives on the line and take up arms against its enemies? Especially when the spoiled little brats of the native population aren't signing up, despite numerous significant long term benefits.
It's not about punishing them or denying them in any way - it's about boosting patriotism and making a commitment to defend this nation, to defend America, with Americans. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to what Democrats like to do to amnesty programs, programs to render one 'legally present' and so forth. If there isn't a strict prohibition installed, you are going to see people leave a prison in South America, invade our nation via the southern border, and Democrats will give them the most advanced weaponry on the planet, and one day they'll happily direct them to point those weapons at Americans.
Our immigration apparatus is 100% broken. Do some research on the various amnesty programs over time and look at how they get abused, perverted, and manipulated by activists. Look at what the Biden admin is doing right now with 'parole' programs, and they are no longer just meeting people coming to the border, they are using an app for people to schedule appointments, arranging flights into the country etc, and once they get "paroled" into the country they get benefits immediately. This administration will extend that to "legally present" and other contrived categories, and that's going to lead to military enlistment.
This issue is not as simple as you make it out to be.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:52 pm to Lima Whiskey
“Every functional society has a warrior caste.
In our case it’s southern white men. Fighting is part of our culture, and that’s unique in the US. We’re largely it.”
But there is the problem. We are now unwoke domestic terrorists.
In our case it’s southern white men. Fighting is part of our culture, and that’s unique in the US. We’re largely it.”
But there is the problem. We are now unwoke domestic terrorists.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:53 pm to Don Quixote
If the draft all the healthy and smart young men then we are stuck with a male population that has anxiety, ADHD, obesity, and a host of other bad habits. It’ll be like Reddit but IRL.
We are not at war (so to say), we don’t need a draft. Congress can increase pay and benefits to lure more in.
We are not at war (so to say), we don’t need a draft. Congress can increase pay and benefits to lure more in.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:56 pm to Don Quixote
I’ll spend the rest of my life in jail and an eternity in hell if necessary to keep my son from being drafted by this corrupt fascist government
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:56 pm to Don Quixote
This should be the easiest time to recruit.
1: Not actively engaged in any hot wars.
2: Military tech and Belgian Malinois' do most of the dirty work.
3: With all the "student loan crisis" in the headlines, you get 4 free years of college.
4: With healthcare costs in the headlines, if you do get called into combat, you get free healthcare for life as a war veteran. If you never get combat time, serve 20 years and retire at age 38 with full pension and benefits regardless.
5: Military service and the networking you build can lead to other lucrative careers after you hang up your helmet.
There's no reason at all that the military is struggling to recruit young men right now. One thing I have noticed in the last several years is a lack of advertising and marketing. I feel like I don't see any commercials recruiting for any of the armed services anymore, when they used to be ubiquitous.
1: Not actively engaged in any hot wars.
2: Military tech and Belgian Malinois' do most of the dirty work.
3: With all the "student loan crisis" in the headlines, you get 4 free years of college.
4: With healthcare costs in the headlines, if you do get called into combat, you get free healthcare for life as a war veteran. If you never get combat time, serve 20 years and retire at age 38 with full pension and benefits regardless.
5: Military service and the networking you build can lead to other lucrative careers after you hang up your helmet.
There's no reason at all that the military is struggling to recruit young men right now. One thing I have noticed in the last several years is a lack of advertising and marketing. I feel like I don't see any commercials recruiting for any of the armed services anymore, when they used to be ubiquitous.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:59 pm to Don Quixote
No one under age 40 is remotely interested in serving for GloboHomo. I really don’t think the older folks understand. Why on earth would we want to fight for neo cons or liberals. Probably would have a tranny commander
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:01 pm to Don Quixote
Why not mandatory 2 year military service. Basic, skill training, then a short station somewhere. Reserve duty for another 2.
I have 2 sons coming up, that would not be a huge hardship.
I have 2 sons coming up, that would not be a huge hardship.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:01 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Let’s just sign up soy4ever, he’s got the entire war covered and would crush the Russian army in veteran mode just like he did in MW3
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:03 pm to Fun Bunch
Men are disproportionately affected by the draft. We need reparations to correct this.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:11 pm to Don Quixote
Fine. A draft after every single one of congress, senate, and presidents children and grandchildren are in service and overseas and 25% have been wounded. Then a limited draft.
This post was edited on 8/2/23 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 8/2/23 at 8:54 pm to POTUS2024
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It's not about punishing them or denying them in any way - it's about boosting patriotism and making a commitment to defend this nation, to defend America, with Americans. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to what Democrats like to do to amnesty programs, programs to render one 'legally present' and so forth. If there isn't a strict prohibition installed, you are going to see people leave a prison in South America, invade our nation via the southern border, and Democrats will give them the most advanced weaponry on the planet, and one day they'll happily direct them to point those weapons at Americans.
Our immigration apparatus is 100% broken. Do some research on the various amnesty programs over time and look at how they get abused, perverted, and manipulated by activists. Look at what the Biden admin is doing right now with 'parole' programs, and they are no longer just meeting people coming to the border, they are using an app for people to schedule appointments, arranging flights into the country etc, and once they get "paroled" into the country they get benefits immediately. This administration will extend that to "legally present" and other contrived categories, and that's going to lead to military enlistment.
This issue is not as simple as you make it out to be.
Make this case to an 11th grade PE class and see how many recruits you get.
Secondly, my best friend growing up was the son of a Mexican immigrant who came here legally on a work visa, immediately joined the military, got citizenship, named his daughter America, was our cub scout master, and eventually died in service in a tragic C-130 crash. That personal experience certainly shades my opinion on the matter, but there are really good people who come to the US for a better life, want to assimilate, want to speak English, want to be Americans. What better way than allow them to joined the armed forces and offer citizenship after an honorable discharge?
You think the Mexican immigrants will join the military in droves and stage a coup? Is that what you are afraid of?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:02 pm to Don Quixote
The Obama and Biden administration has systematically run off good people. You expect to draft the very same people that you don't want to begin with. The draft is not the solution. The entire premise ignores the real problem.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:12 pm to POTUS2024
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It's not about punishing them or denying them in any way - it's about boosting patriotism and making a commitment to defend this nation, to defend America, with Americans. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to what Democrats like to do to amnesty programs, programs to render one 'legally present' and so forth. If there isn't a strict prohibition installed, you are going to see people leave a prison in South America, invade our nation via the southern border, and Democrats will give them the most advanced weaponry on the planet, and one day they'll happily direct them to point those weapons at Americans.
Our immigration apparatus is 100% broken. Do some research on the various amnesty programs over time and look at how they get abused, perverted, and manipulated by activists. Look at what the Biden admin is doing right now with 'parole' programs, and they are no longer just meeting people coming to the border, they are using an app for people to schedule appointments, arranging flights into the country etc, and once they get "paroled" into the country they get benefits immediately. This administration will extend that to "legally present" and other contrived categories, and that's going to lead to military enlistment.
This issue is not as simple as you make it out to be.
Man, your initial post was almost dead on accurate. But, you did mess up with this point.
From your responses I'm going to say that you are not a veteran. I am. I have served with every type of American there is, and there are a multitude that you didn't even know existed. I will say this, I am one of the most patriotic dudes that I know (and I come from SOF), but the dudes that were joining to get their citizenship, they were hardcore about it, and right up there with my patriotism.
I've seen your posts, and for A LOT of what you say I am totally on board. On this, you are flat out wrong. DeepRig9 is correct.
If you want to argue how the DOD is moving left and recruiting is trying to do the same, then I'm all for it. Standards are not enforced now. But if you hold the standards, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with allowing foreign nationals to fight for our country to earn their citizenship.
What have you done to earn your citizenship?
Just so you know, I've conducted hundreds of special operation missions over 3 deployments to earn mine.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:15 pm to Don Quixote
quote:They should draft the OWEOs first.
"We Need a Limited Military Draft"
Just put them in handy-capable tanks. They don't need legs to drive around mine fields.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:18 pm to Don Quixote
The volunteer military is broken because of the people in charge for the last 14+ years.
You keep telling white southerners they aren’t wanted in the military, don’t be fricking shocked when they stop signing up.
You keep telling white southerners they aren’t wanted in the military, don’t be fricking shocked when they stop signing up.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:21 pm to POTUS2024
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End the program for non-citizens to serve in order to expedite citizenship. Defend America with Americans. Sorry to those folks, but we have to up patriotism in this nation.
Wtf. Lol.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:24 pm to Don Quixote
They can’t get their recruiting quotas anymore eh?
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:39 pm to Tractor
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would never let my child serve in the armed forces of THIS government
but if your relative is drafted are you going to prevent him from getting to his physical?
Canada?
suppose hes gung ho?
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