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re: Wednesday's thoughts on Tuesday regarding Jack Smith.

Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:46 am to
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:46 am to
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I can't explain something that doesn't exist

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:48 am to
It's a subject with a whole lot of 85-IQ discussion.

Like this

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He was involved in a conspiracy to interfere in the 2024 election. It was an insurrectionist plot. He and all his liberal cronies need to be charged and tried in a district that is 96% pro Trump. That them face the same kind of jury pool that Trump faced.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:48 am to
Uses you can find demonstrable examples of him engaging in unethical behavior such as hiding or discarding exculpatory evidence for example, you probably cannot get him disbarred. The fact that he was acting as SC and was vigorous in his job is not enough.

Just leave him alone....shite offer him his old job back in the Netherlands working the ICC. Make him beholden.....that would be smart politics
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:48 am to
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Uses you can find demonstrable examples of him engaging in unethical behavior such as hiding or discarding exculpatory evidence for example, you probably cannot get him disbarred. The fact that he was acting as SC and was vigorous in his job is not enough.


That does not satisfy the demands of the muh fight crowd.

And if they CAN find that sort of stuff, disbar away.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 10:49 am
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:49 am to
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It's a subject with a whole lot of 85-IQ discussion.


Seemingly about your speed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:49 am to
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Seemingly about your speed.


Pre-emptive ad hom.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:50 am to
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I can't explain something


Well that's a first. This is an event to be cherished.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:51 am to
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What should happen to Smith? He needs to be disbarred and unemployable. His license should be gone in any state he currently holds it, and he should be disbarred from litigating in Federal Court in all fifty states. Any accrued federal retirement should be revoked, any pay he earned from participating in this miscarriage of justice should be disgorged. His security clearance should also be revoked, permanently. His name and reputation should be ruined.


ABSOLUTELY

then go after any "conspirators" who willingly connived with him - (up to and including any ex-POTUS if possible)

Use 'prosecutorial discretion' to line up whistleblowers to root out the top dogs in the conspiracy.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:51 am to
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Pre-emptive ad hom.


In your case, it’s not a fallacy. There’s genuinely something wrong with you.
Posted by WDE1980
Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:52 am to
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If he was illegally appointed, as some have said, they yes, he should be prosecuted since he accepted the appointment. He spent $50 million of taxpayer's money for a personal vendetta. That's fraud in my book.


Not to mention the millions Trump has spent defending himself.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62533 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:53 am to
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prosecutors (like presidents) have immunity from prosecution


Even if a prosecutor illegally frames a defendant, colludes with a judge, falsifies evidence, etc?

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legitimizing this bullshite legal theory will do nothing to end lawfare forever


I like you as a poster, but there's zero chance the lawfare ends without people paying a price. Thinking otherwise is blatant denial.

War was declared years ago.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:54 am to
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In your case, it’s not a fallacy.

But it is, objectively. I've taken many IQ tests in my life.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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471308 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:54 am to
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Even if a prosecutor illegally frames a defendant, colludes with a judge, falsifies evidence, etc?

Potentially not, but there is no evidence Jack Smith did any of that. That's the issue with this argument.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56137 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:56 am to
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I've taken many IQ tests in my life.


Why? Do you keep failing them?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62533 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:57 am to
We will let the legal system decide whether he's guilty of a crime or not.

I'm not going to take your word for it.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:05 am to
How about prosecute him for sedition
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2566 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:05 am to
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Not to mention the millions Trump has spent defending himself.


Not a dime of that defense money came for Trumps pocket, thanks to you gullible trump worshipers. Why worry about payback, lets all just sit back and enjoy the low prices in food, fuel, clothing and goods that will be the legacy of Trumps second Presidency.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471308 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:08 am to
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Why?


It's a typical hobby of people with high IQs

I didn't know this until much later in life.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:11 am to
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Even if a prosecutor illegally frames a defendant, colludes with a judge, falsifies evidence, etc?


I believe that they are immune from prosecution, but do not have civil immunity if they violated someone’s rights. Trump could bankrupt and humiliate Smith, but I don’t think he can be prosecuted
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3269 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:19 am to
I agree that any legal pursuit to bring justice to Jack Smith and others that participated in unethical-- if not outright illegal-- lawfare should be done so carefully so as to not perpetuate tit for tat lawfare if/when power goes back to the other side. The system should be strengthened against abuse.

I don't disagree that Smith should be disbarred, etc. along your line of thought.

I wonder, though, what more might be done in Smith's case... I think they have Smith (and/or parts of his team) dead to rights on spoliation of evidence for the purposeful mishandling of seized documents and putting false classified cover sheets on them to stage a photo op. There is no innocent or accidental reason for this. Aside from simple sanctions, since this was done to both falsely hurt Trump's political hopes and to falsely magnify the optics of the legitimacy and importance of this case, what charges might stem from this? Something pertaining to malicious prosecution? The intentional nature of this was along the lines of defamation/libel, and though Trump is a public figure, was this flagrant enough to pursue recourse in this vein?

I saw a couple of guests on Newsmax yesterday note that the way Smith filed to dismiss without prejudice might allow him to revive the case in 4 years, as also noted in point #2 in this article: JDSupra

To this end, I think more should be done than simply disbarring Smith and perhaps some of his team. If you don't go after him, it seems that this case doesn't quite die and that does not seem just. But, again, I do agree that it shouldn't be just be a sloppy tit for tat that perpetuates systemic abuse of the system.


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