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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:26 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Silliness
Reagan expanded handouts , Clinton did welfare reform.
A REAL conservative doesn't expand handouts just like a REAL conservative doesn't support abortion.
Regan was likable but he was no conservative.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:28 pm to 93and99
quote:Nope. Congress (Dem led) did that. And it wasn’t part of the presidential budget requests.
Reagan expanded handouts ,
quote:Congress did this too (Rep led)
Clinton did welfare reform.
I’ll go with ignorant.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:29 pm to 93and99
quote:
Reagan expanded handouts , Clinton did welfare reform.
LOL.
It's like talking to a child
We don't elect Kings. Thought you should know
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:33 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
High or just ignorant?
Blind or just stupid ?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:37 pm to Taxing Authority
REAGAN SPENT ALL THE MONEY!!!


Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:38 pm to 93and99
quote:Ypu made the assertion. You tell us why it’s so
Blind or just stupid ?
misaligned with reality.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:40 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
I’ll go with ignorant.
Prove to me Reagan vetoed the expansion of the Earned Income Credit and they overrode his veto.
Prove to me Clinton vetoed welfare reform and his veto was overridden.
Reagan and Clinton each own those legislations.
Just like Trump owns those bloated Omnibus bills he keeps signing instead of vetoeing.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:40 pm to BoarEd
quote:
did you just throw the 100 years thing out there for the hell of it?
Good point, but no, but while I picked the 100 years as an earmark, it wasn't just for kicks. I LOVE Ike, and definitely appreciate all of his accomplishments as Supreme Allied Commander and his accomplishments as POTUS, he was indeed a great President. Ike accomplished a TON of great things in an age of massive prosperity. I guess to explain my rationale a bit, I would say that Reagan and Trump both came along at a period of malaise, low morale, loss of momentum and despair, brought about by preceding failures, and both boosted the country in a great time of need. I take NOTHING away from Ike, and he is easily in the discussion as well.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:41 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
It's like talking to a child
I didn't realize you are dumb.
Ever heard of a veto Einstein ?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:51 pm to 93and99
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Amnesty and expanding the Earned Income Credit , that's what I think of when I hear people talking about Reagan
If that is what you think about when you think of Reagan you are a fool.
The thought process of the EIC was to reward work and to slow and eventually quit directed handouts. When Regan supported the expansion of EIC he also cut AFDC and was the first to give states the option of having medicaid work requirements. Reagan did not start the EIC--that was Ford in 75. Reagan expanded it as a part of the tax reform act of 1986---a deal he made with a split Congress.
Amnesty for immigrants was a no brainer and EVERY President since Reagan has practiced amnesty in reality. Trump is basically following the amnesty doctrine as we speak. Anyone that wants a government so big that it could deport the people here illegally (estimated to be up to 11 million people) is a naive big government advocate.
Reagan could not cut spending with a split congress. He made big changes.
Clinton had to deal with a republican congress after 94. It was a republican Senate FYI that acquitted him on impeachment. I wish Gingrich had ignored the Lewinsky affair and simply behind the scenes held it over Clinton's head. Gingrich and Clinton almost had a deal on private social security accounts that went out the window when Gingrich started toward impeachment. That change would have done more to end generational poverty in this county than any thing since. Clinton was not Reagan.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:53 pm to 93and99
quote:Why would you want that. Go do some learning. Neither would have survived a veto. You also might want to have a look at what Reagan actually vetoed. Good grief.
Prove to me Reagan vetoed the expansion of the Earned Income Credit and they overrode his veto.
Prove to me Clinton vetoed welfare reform and his veto was overridden.
You should be mad at whoever misled you so bad.
quote:Yup. SS and medicare are totally Trump’s fault.
Just like Trump owns those bloated Omnibus bills he keeps signing instead of vetoeing.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:05 pm to 93and99
quote:
Prove to me Reagan vetoed the expansion of the Earned Income Credit and they overrode his veto.
Like I said it's like talking to a child.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:07 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
would you want that. Go do some learning. Neither would have survived a veto. You also might want to have a look at what Reagan actually vetoed. Good grief.
You should be mad at whoever misled you so bad
And he'll even if his veto would have stood it's absurd to act so retarded as to think that every bill a president doesn't veto is when he fully supports
When you are working with a congress with a strong majority of the opposition party it's not like you're going to get what you want exactly
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:11 pm to RollTide4Ever
quote:
Bill Clinton.
What were some of his accomplishments that put him in that category for you?
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:13 pm to ShortyRob
quote:He probably also doesn’t realize the congressional republicans in the 80s were completely spineless. Like... would have made Paul Ryan looked like a buzz saw spineless. It wasn’t until the ‘94 congressional sweep that the republicans got an upgrade to RINO.
When you are working with a congress with a strong majority of the opposition party
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:14 pm to PiscesTiger
If it's true that "one is defined by his enemies," it has to be this one.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 2:18 pm to xiv
quote:
The media deserves a lot of the credit for making it so, but the answer is Bill Clinton.
FIFY
Posted on 1/11/20 at 4:28 pm to PiscesTiger
Since 1955 it's Trump, case closed
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