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re: Why Can’t People Learn To Accept Permanent U.S. War In The Middle East?
Posted on 2/21/26 at 3:22 pm to Bass Tiger
Posted on 2/21/26 at 3:22 pm to Bass Tiger
So what is the objective of said "deal"? I don't recall the Trump administration laying out specifically what ecactly it wants. My guess is that we are only representing the interests of Isreal here.
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 3:27 pm to wackatimesthree
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If Iran ever gets a functioning nuke it will be launched at Israel within 24 hours of acquisition, with Israel's counterstrike happening within seconds or minutes after that.
No they wouldn’t.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 3:33 pm to wackatimesthree
Remember, they can reach Eastern Europe now. They'll continue to expand their range gradually over the rest of Europe. But Paris, Brussels, and London will be safe since versions of Mohammed are the #1 baby name in all of them.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:00 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:It sounds like you have.
Why Can’t People Learn To Accept Permanent U.S. War In The Middle East?
"From the river to the sea" represents exactly that.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:02 pm to UtahCajun
Well, only Reagan and Trump have bombed Iran,
This would be Trumps 2nd if so after being obliterated months ago
Other than threats, what diplomacy has He accomplished, since then?
This would be Trumps 2nd if so after being obliterated months ago
Other than threats, what diplomacy has He accomplished, since then?
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:46 pm to Narax
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I don't know, why can't you accept that Iran needs to not have nukes.
I haven’t argued otherwise. Yet I was told on this very forum that this issue had been resolved.
Putting that aside, the question is not whether a nuclear Iran is desirable. The question is why is this a problem for the United States to solve?
The other military powers in the Middle East — such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel — each have clear strategic reasons to oppose a nuclear-armed Iran. They also possess advanced, capable militaries.
If they view this as an existential threat, they are in a position to coordinate and act accordingly. If Iran must be stopped, let these other regional powers form a coalition that will bear the costs and assume the consequences.
The United States is not obligated to referee these long-standing regional rivalries. Many Americans — including a significant segment of the MAGA coalition — are increasingly skeptical of continuing to shoulder the financial and strategic burdens of the United States serving as Global Cop.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:55 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:56 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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The question is why is this a problem for the United States to solve?
That's a really good question, the only real answer is that because no one else can.
Just as Russia could not successfully attack Ukraine, any nation, or group of nations other than the USA would be incapable of taking out Iran.
Israel would have done so if they thought they had any chance.
Even then, the USA cannot do it without our allies.
It's not a great answer, much less a good answer.
But it is the answer, because no one else can.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:57 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel — each have clear strategic reasons to oppose a nuclear-armed Iran. They also possess advanced, capable militaries.
Which don't include B-2s, B-52s, aircraft carriers and destroyers out the wazoo. And make no mistake, Erdogan (Turkey, I'm not calling it Türkiye) is a hair away from being an Iranian ally if it weren't for the Sunni/Shia divide. Remember Turkey denied us access during the Gulf war to invade Iraq from the North.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 4:58 pm to Narax
Yeah! You tell ‘em! They can’t have muh Weapons of Mass Destruction!!!!!!
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:00 pm to Zach
frick Islam, but don’t act like the United States is the beacon of morality and honesty.
Don’t be a dunder head.
Don’t be a dunder head.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:01 pm to Mobile Patriot
You also don’t pour gasoline on said fires.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:02 pm to Narax
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I don't know, why can't you accept that Iran needs to not have nukes.
go back to 3rd grade idiot
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:03 pm to LemmyLives
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Remember Turkey denied us access during the Gulf war to invade Iraq from the North.
Yeah, and at the time I thought they weren't being a "team player for this. Wound up they were right, our gubmint position was wrong.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:04 pm to Narax
Didn’t Trump tell us he got the nuclear sites last year?
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:05 pm to PurpleCrush
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Well, only Reagan and Trump have bombed Iran
Bruh, don't backtrack now. You made a statement about lacking diplomacy so "bombs away".
Dude you say lacks diplomacy has brokered many peace deals and has bombed much less than the three examples I shot back. I really wish those three presidents did not lack diplomacy.
Just so you can understand:
Your post sucked arse and had zero basis in truth or reality.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:07 pm to EphesianArmor
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Now that's there's an official "Board of Peace", how dare you insinuate that it is some kind of inverted intent using magic words and Orwellian cover!
If this is the agenda of the BOP, John McCain should be declared the BOP’s Emeritus In Memoriam.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:08 pm to dchunk
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Didn’t Trump tell us he got the nuclear sites last year?
We did, or at the very least set their program back years. But this isn’t about nukes. We’re going after regime change. All of these “negotiations” are just theater while we get our shite in place.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:09 pm to nealnan8
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So what is the objective of said "deal"?
I don't recall the Trump administration laying out specifically what ecactly it wants.
At first the issue was knocking out Iranian nuke capabilities (the same "nukes" Bib has claimed they were "that close" to completing and supposedly going to use on either Isreal or us.)
Well, Trump claimed it was "mission accomplished" just months ago. NOT good enough now. So what does it want now? I don't know what kind of cred he or the State Dept has now for whatever reason they give.
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My guess is that we are only representing the interests of Isreal here.
As we've come to know as the ONLY interests that matter.
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:10 pm to Toomer Deplorable
(That's why Lady Lindsey's back in the game. To take over Stain's legacy.)
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