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re: Why is abortion so important to the Left?
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:10 pm to Smeg
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:10 pm to Smeg
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It's their "unholy sacrament".
So true. It’s their blasphemous anti-Eucharist. Molech demands constant sacrifices and is never propitiated.
Profit. Eugenics. Racial genocide. All lagniappe for the Left.
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:59 pm to Masterag
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True religion
And conveniently, you have the one true religion.
Hard pass.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:01 pm to Bass Tiger
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Christianity is an impediment to discovery? Freedom?
In 2022, absolutely. It's outlived its usefulness.
That's why you see people like Foo fumble their way through the Bible, trying to explain away shite that isn't relevant anymore and make bogus claims about an "objective morality."
And when he inevitably falls on his face doing so, his god is the perfect fall guy.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:02 pm to FooManChoo
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You seem to be confused.
I'm not.
I'm also done letting you derail with your tired bullshite.
Have a nice evening.
Last word is yours, if you need it.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:10 pm to L.A.
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It absolutely does IF the woman has been unfaithful. Read the text for yourself. I just posted it
Oh shite. I forgot to read it before I responded.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:15 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Buckeye you have never ever made Foo or any Christian stumble.
Especially in regards to morality.
Nice try.
Especially in regards to morality.
Nice try.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:34 pm to L.A.
What a silly argument lol there are also no scriptures specifically forbidding child molestation, rape, incest, armed robbery, drug addiction, or numerous other crimes/character flaws but if you read the Bible in its context it is quite clear how God feels about certain behaviors. For example, the Bible doesn’t expressly forbid masterbation but struck a man dead for spilling his seed. But you believe that since the Bible doesn’t expressly forbid abortion then it’s ok, even though Jesus himself taught that anyone who is angry with his brother is guilty of the same judgement as a murderer? I can just hear Jesus teaching at the Sermon on the Mount that it’s ok to destroy a baby’s life if the time isn’t exactly right for your family but true religion is taking care of widows and orphans lol the leaps some of you take
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:37 pm to crazyatthecamp
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Buckeye you have never ever made Foo or any Christian stumble.
Here's a hint for you..."cuz god" is the biggest stumble you can make, and y'all do it all the time.
The problem is that I used to be one of you. You don't own morality and pretending that your god invented it doesn't get you around that.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:40 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Oh look, an angry former Christian who thinks he has all the answers because his lifestyle didn’t fit the teachings lol it’s the angry God argument
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:40 pm to FooManChoo
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On a spiritual level, it symbolizes god-like autonomy and authority over life, itself. It's a rejection of God.
Ding ding ding
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:42 pm to L.A.
Pandering to Karens
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:51 pm to L.A.
quote:Here is the text: Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
The text in Jeremiah actually says BEFORE he was in the womb, not WHILE he was in it
It doesn’t make things better if you interpret the entire verse as talking about Jeremiah before even his conception, because the point is that Jeremiah was chosen for a purpose by God and was valued by Him even before he was created, so the value didn’t change between conception and birth. Jeremiah was set apart for a special purpose even while in the womb, so that God protected him even at that point. Do you think he was of no value in the womb?
quote:All of it is biblical proof. To deny it is to deny the clarity of the scriptures. Do you deny Samson being under the Nazarite vow even from conception? His mother was told not to drink wine while pregnant because he wasn’t supposed to have it. That isn’t something done to a non-person without value. That’s not subjective. That’s a logical inconsistency if the pro-abortion view is true.
Everything else you said is subjective. Again, I happen to agree with you, but nothing you offered constitutes Biblical proof
quote:A miscarriage (which is the possible worst case scenario) is not the same as an abortion. The purpose of the test was to identify infidelity and punish it with the curse of barrenness. The reason why this curse was so bad was that children were considered a blessing. Abortion would have been appalling in that society.
Are you familiar with Numbers 5 and the teaching there that encourages abortion if it is suspected that the woman has been unfaithful?
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:58 pm to FooManChoo
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A miscarriage (which is the possible worst case scenario) is not the same as an abortion.
What's the difference between a miscarriage brought about by the purposeful behavior of the priest and an abortion brought about by the purposeful behavior of a doctor?
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:00 pm to Azkiger
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What's the difference between a miscarriage brought about by the purposeful behavior of the priest and an abortion brought about by the purposeful behavior of a doctor?
Backup one step. What’s the implication if the woman was not adulterous?
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:01 pm to L.A.
The OT scripture you posted to use as some validation for a devout Christian supporting abortion is not applicable. The OT laws and customs were almost exclusive to God’s chosen people of that time. The NT is where Christians get their moral direction. There is little doubt in my mind abortion is considered murder in the New Covenant. I also believe when God said He would write His commandments in our hearts it’s why we understand the termination of the unborn is indeed murder to born again Christians……God’s law is in your heart and the Holy Spirit will convict you when you purposely ignore what God has placed in your heart. There are exceptions to this feeling of guilt, namely you’re not walking in the Light and you have purposefully seared your conscience by continually sinning without care or remorse.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:02 pm to the808bass
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Backup one step. What’s the implication if the woman was not adulterous?
No curse befalls her.
What's the difference between a miscarriage brought about by the purposeful behavior of the priest and an abortion brought about by the purposeful behavior of a doctor?
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:05 pm to Azkiger
If you don’t understand the difference between punishment for adultery under the Law and an abortion for convenience which is 99% of them then I don’t know what to tell you. The entire purpose of the teaching under the Law was to label an adulterous woman as unclean meaning she could have no contact with the Jewish patriarchy or her husband. She would essentially be cast out. It has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion or the legitimacy of it. It’s a Google search of the Bible to try to find an archaic scripture under the Law of Moses that has literally nothing to do with the topic at hand
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:12 pm to Azkiger
So all women who choose to have an abortion are adulterous? That’s your argument lol but since we are now beholden to the Law you aren’t going to like what it says about homosexuality, fornication, laziness, dishonesty, theft, murder, etc. Let’s take scriptures out of context and pick/choose which Laws we like or dislike to fit our preconceived notions
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:15 pm to Rip Torn
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The entire purpose of the teaching under the Law was to label an adulterous woman as unclean meaning she could have no contact with the Jewish patriarchy or her husband.
Don't forget her stomach would swell, her thighs rot, and she'd be baron, which is, of course, 100% safe for the bastard child she currently has inside her. 100% safe...
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So all women who choose to have an abortion are adulterous?
How did you come to that conclusion?
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:18 pm to Azkiger
quote:Intent.
What's the difference between a miscarriage brought about by the purposeful behavior of the priest and an abortion brought about by the purposeful behavior of a doctor?
The curse is meant for the woman and if a child died as the result, that would be an unintended consequence. An abortion is an intended termination of a child’s life. A miscarriage is an accidental termination of a child’s life, meaning that the action performed that resulted in the death of the child was not done with the purpose of killing the child.
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