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re: Why isn’t Canada removed from NATO
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:30 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:30 pm to lake chuck fan
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Carney is a globalist plant and wasn't even born in Canada.
He was born in Canada, but that's about it, he left for college and never looked back except for 10 years until he was almost 60 and decided to rule it.
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Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:30 pm to Jugbow
Antagonizing all of Europe, Canada, South America, China, etc will do wonders for our security. DJT doing everything he can make sure the Chinese rule the rest of the century. Xi must be delighted with all the new trade deals DJT is bringing him. They don’t have to do a thing but sit back and watch DJT dismantle 80 years of alliances and trade agreements.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:31 pm to uziyourillusion
China is a world playa!
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:32 pm to uziyourillusion
China has no oil capabilities domestically. Totally cutting off all of their ability to get oil outside of Russia is going to put them in a position where they might get otherthrown by their own people, much less claim world domination.
This is another reason Greenland is important. China does process like 95% of the worlds rare earth which gives them a choke point situation on us like we are creating for them on oil.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:33 pm to td01241
We are the lawless pariahs
Is there a trophy for that ?
Is there a trophy for that ?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:37 pm to Tmcgin
How are we lawless?
If you mean this vague liberal idea of international law, this only can exist when the US is willing to enforce it. So it’s not even really a thing; and if it was the sovereign would have carve out exceptions
If you mean this vague liberal idea of international law, this only can exist when the US is willing to enforce it. So it’s not even really a thing; and if it was the sovereign would have carve out exceptions
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:42 pm to HubbaBubba
Not yo mention that Xi would nod his head in agreement regardless
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:07 pm to uziyourillusion
quote:
Turns out when you turn your allies into enemies, they probably seek out new allies. Who could have possibly imagined such a scenario…
Our options are:
A. Continue to let our ‘allies’ abuse our relationship
B. Make our relationship more equal
We’re choosing option B and our ‘allies’ don’t like it
Option A is preferred by people who don’t want to upset the apple cart
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:09 pm to Jugbow
Just two words: 51st state.
Two words that you mouth breathers still think was a good idea.
Two words that you mouth breathers still think was a good idea.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:10 pm to Bengalbio
Any conservative who thinks making Canada a state is a good idea is below Somali level IQ.
MAYBE Alberta. That’s it
MAYBE Alberta. That’s it
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:19 pm to td01241
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In real terms our ally’s right now are basically Argentina El Salvador Hungary Poland, Japan, South Korea and maybe a few others. These are all actually people who don’t just take and bring something to the table themselves in one way or another
That's a terrible list of allies, save for Poland, Japan and South Korea. The Coupang situation could easily sour relationships with South Korea, Japan has been in a perpetual crisis for 30 years now and Poland will always side with Europe due to their specific geography, as they are situated on the European plain, and thus will always find it difficult to defend both their eastern and western borders. They will have to choose the option which continues their good relations with Germany in order to focus on their eastern border, which again should suggest something to you when you try to invoke 'realpolitik' as a response to this post.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:20 pm to crazy4lsu
I was merely trying to make comment on who are our current allies who are that in more than name only.
I spoke nothing to the good or bad of it, but I’d ageee with you that it needs to be expanded
I spoke nothing to the good or bad of it, but I’d ageee with you that it needs to be expanded
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:32 pm to hawgfaninc
So your solution is to destroy all alliances because you don’t feel they pay enough.
In return, you lose access to critical military bases that we 100% depend on for power projection and then lose out on intelligence sharing….Not to mention cede more ground to China. We get Greenland (which we can already use how we see fit), but they get the trade deals from the world’s second largest economic zone. Meanwhile, the US is left isolated and with no allies. How is this a preferable solution over the status quo?
In return, you lose access to critical military bases that we 100% depend on for power projection and then lose out on intelligence sharing….Not to mention cede more ground to China. We get Greenland (which we can already use how we see fit), but they get the trade deals from the world’s second largest economic zone. Meanwhile, the US is left isolated and with no allies. How is this a preferable solution over the status quo?
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:35 pm to td01241
I mean, the Atlanticist wing is still dominant and arguably Trump's moves vis-a-vis Greenland are made assuming that our other major Atlantic allies, the UK and Canada, will always be our allies. The fact that more of Canada is not US territory speaks to the once frayed relationship between the US and the UK and is a large reason why we don't have unfettered access to the North Atlantic from Nova Scotia. Returning to a more antagonistic relationship is always going to be a losing battle if the aim is to control the entrance and exit to that region. If we have to return to the old ways, like some in this administration seem to think, then what is stopping either Nordic or UK competition in the North Atlantic? It is myopia all around.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:38 pm to uziyourillusion
If you’re ok with the status quo, we’ll have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:42 pm to td01241
The US signed the NATO treaty and is in a legally binding defense agreement. The Supremacy Clause makes this law of the land.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:43 pm to uziyourillusion
Is that treaty binding on all participants?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:44 pm to uziyourillusion
Just like the 2% that most 31 nations don’t meet? Legally binding right?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:46 pm to Leopold
quote:
Because Canada isn't the NATO member threatening to annex or invade another member.
If by annex or invade you mean buy, then cool.
On the flip side, Canada is aligning with a communist nation (something which I’m sure that you fully support).
Why do you hate America?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:46 pm to hawgfaninc
No one is perfectly happy with it, it needs fixing and Europe needs to pay more for their collective defense - and they have started doing just that. Far too little and late, but that’s better than nuking the whole thing because you’re frustrated over their defense spending. Even at starts quo, the US benefits far more from this relationship than anyone else. Billions of dollars in defense agreement, military access all over Europe, intelligence, favorable trade deals, and let’s face it, some pretty subservient leaders who will virtually bend over backwards to please the US president. It’s a pretty sweet deal and I’m surprised so many people are so willing to blow up one the principle reasons we are the world hegemony right now. For fricking Greenland lol….
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