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re: Why isn't the Trinity mentioned in the bible?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:51 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:51 am to AggieHank86
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If such an entity exists, however, I suspect that it bears a much closer resemblance to the Paley’s “Great Watchmaker“ than to the Abrahamic God.
Most find a God who is both personal and invested in our behavior to be hard to swallow. The implications are frightening
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Posted on 11/28/22 at 10:54 am to squid_hunt
Scared the shite out of me. I was always a “watch-maker” guy. Never particularly devout, but a deist at minimum.
It made me realize how many bad things had happened in my life in order to teach me lessons. And how many times I had learned the exact WRONG lessons from those experiences. It’s like there’s this divine plan, and God actively tries to put you on it, and often intervenes to give you more chances to be the version of yourself that can accomplish that plan. But, whether you actually do is a result of both free-will and the fallibility of man. You can take the snap, make the right read, and throw to the open receiver, but will you make the completion?
It made me realize how many bad things had happened in my life in order to teach me lessons. And how many times I had learned the exact WRONG lessons from those experiences. It’s like there’s this divine plan, and God actively tries to put you on it, and often intervenes to give you more chances to be the version of yourself that can accomplish that plan. But, whether you actually do is a result of both free-will and the fallibility of man. You can take the snap, make the right read, and throw to the open receiver, but will you make the completion?
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 10:57 am
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:00 am to ruffleforeskin
To the original poster - let me guess, you are not a Catholic is that correct? Do you attend any Christian church regularly?
What is your eternal viewpoint?
Are you agnostic or atheist?
Do you believe in an afterlife and what does that look like to you and how do you feel that will work out for you?
Thanks much.
Dr Dolemite
What is your eternal viewpoint?
Are you agnostic or atheist?
Do you believe in an afterlife and what does that look like to you and how do you feel that will work out for you?
Thanks much.
Dr Dolemite
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:01 am to AggieHank86
I don't get too wrapped up in it. Jesus more than once refers to His Father, but also can't rule out that He is The Father in the flesh. Either way, submission to Jesus is submission to God/ The Father/ The Most High/ The Lord of Hosts. Have also seen The Ancient of Days in Enoch I. Some of these terms are used in the Psalms.
Seems pretty clear we accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour/ King of Kings and believe he lived a sinless life and was sacrificed for our sins and was resurrected.
Could be that the Holy Spirit represents God's creation of and control of every biological, physical, and supernatural process in the universe. Have been curious about this as well.
Seems pretty clear we accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour/ King of Kings and believe he lived a sinless life and was sacrificed for our sins and was resurrected.
Could be that the Holy Spirit represents God's creation of and control of every biological, physical, and supernatural process in the universe. Have been curious about this as well.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:03 am to squid_hunt
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Most find a God who is both personal and invested in our behavior to be hard to swallow. The implications are frightening
Makes one wonder why a purely "impersonal creator" would set in motion a framework that brought about beings that would come to ponder the very reason for the existence of such a creation and its ultimate creator.
Does the watchmaker ever contemplate the watch doing anything but just telling time?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:03 am to AggieHank86
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No serious modern scholar (including those within the Church) has believed this to be literal truth for a century.
Who are these serious modern scholars?
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For one thing, the text is written in flawless, educated Greek. The Apostle John was many things, but a Hellenic Jew was not one of them.
1. John could have learned to read and write between the year AD 30 and the year AD 100.
2. John could have employed a scribe to write his Gospel while he dictated.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:05 am to RollTide1987
Weren’t the first gospels written in Aramaic and then translated into Greek?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:07 am to AggieHank86
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And most serious scholarship actually looks at both religious and non-religious sources.
You are so condescending, Hank. Why? As someone who is clearly smarter than you, it makes me cringe when you consistently qualify your statements with simplistic insults. “Thinking people”, “thinking scholars”, etc. what an elementary way to try to elevate the validity of a weak argument.
You would get laughed at in any courtroom in the country talking like that. You look just as silly here. Do better.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:08 am to El Segundo Guy
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Why in the frick is this even a topic on a POLITICAL TALK forum?
This is where the political battle truly is. The fight for the nation is literally this
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:08 am to squid_hunt
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Most find a God who is both personal and invested in our behavior to be hard to swallow. The implications are frightening
"God" is a spirit. Could be trillions upon trillions of smart atoms.
God is inside the individual, not out in space.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:08 am to BBONDS25
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You are so condescending, Hank. Why? As someone who is clearly smarter than you, it makes me cringe when you consistently qualify your statements with simplistic insults. “Thinking people”, “thinking scholars”, etc. what an elementary way to try to elevate the validity of a weak argument. You would get laughed at in any courtroom in the country talking like that. You look just as silly here. Do better.
Maybe he's a masochist....
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:12 am to kingbob
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Weren’t the first gospels written in Aramaic and then translated into Greek?
Irenaeus of Lyons (writing about AD 180) tells us that Matthew wrote a document in "the language of the Hebrews" before writing his Gospel in Greek. We're not told if the former was an Aramaic form of his Gospel or something else entirely which has since been lost.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:14 am to kingbob
quote:My understanding is that they were all written in Greek, though they were later translated back into Aramaic for use in Aramaic-speaking countries.
Weren’t the first gospels written in Aramaic and then translated into Greek?
There is obviously an Aramaic oral tradition underlying the written documents. There is also a theory that there may have been some source material written in Aramaic which was utilized in drafting several of the Gospels. For instance, the Q-source for Matthew and Luke may well have been written in Aramaic.
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 11:18 am
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:14 am to kingbob
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Dude was rifling through his book like a 1L law student panicking during an open book exam. Apparently, I wasn’t supposed to be dead yet, and I hadn’t accomplished the mission I was put on earth to do alongside a certain other person.
But they got Warren Beatty to play you in the movie, which was nice.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:16 am to ruffleforeskin
You don't Bible much, do you, bro?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:18 am to Flats
I had to look it up. I’ve never seen that movie. Are you referencing “Heaven Can Wait”?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
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"God" is a spirit. Could be trillions upon trillions of smart atoms.
Except the Spirit is in comparison to the physical and defined as the mind of God.
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Psa 139:7-10 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
God is omnipresent.
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 11:19 am
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:19 am to squid_hunt
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God is omnipresent.
Because god is a spirit.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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God is inside the individual, not out in space.
God is omnipresent.
Because god is a spirit.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:25 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:People also keep ant farms, just to watch and see what they do.
Does the watchmaker ever contemplate the watch doing anything but just telling time?
A creator entity might will have a similar motivation.
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 11:27 am
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