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re: Why would Ron support Puerto Rico as the 51st state?

Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:36 pm to
Stop losing in what should be slam dunk GOP districts and it wouldn’t matter.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:37 pm to
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Why would Trump support expanding corn ethanol fuel?



Because Midwestern corn growers are a large voting block.

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Why would Trump endorse the Covid “vaccine”?



Because while Trump was president, like most people, the vaccine was believe to be the quickest way out of the pandemic. After the vaccine rollout and into the the Biden administration we learned the COVID mRNA vaccine was basically a dud and gave many people adverse side effects.

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Those “why would” games can go both ways.


If you consider them games, the games can be ended really quickly with truthful answers. Just own up. No one is expecting a perfect candidate and specifically in this case you might like Ron's reason for supporting Puerto Rico's admission into the USA.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:37 pm to
Hilarious how quickly people like you concede to the dems

You wonder why we are where we are.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:38 pm to
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We should allow them their sovereignty. It is what they have wanted forever.


Every referendum they’ve conducted on the matter ends up in the status quo.
Posted by PorkSammich
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:40 pm to
Why does MAGA dissect everything someone else does but never what Trump has done?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:47 pm to
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Because OMB! That’s why! - Ronbots


I cannot fathom the level of stupidity it takes for Trumpanzees to post this canned idiotic response in damn near every topic that involves either candidate. I’ve been pointing out that all you’re doing is the Jussie Smollet routine but I’m not sure that’s fair to Jussie. He at least used a little imagination.
Posted by LSUbest
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:54 pm to
Adding a Pedocrat State would tip the balance, maybe forever.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:54 pm to
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You got him now! This is the important shite you “conservatives” care about. Meanwhile, the left just took over another institution while you were busy crying about inconsequential bullshite.




Uh, I don't think this question is rhetorical. OP really wants to know.

What's the reason?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:55 pm to
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After the vaccine rollout and into the the Biden administration we learned the COVID mRNA vaccine was basically a dud and gave many people adverse side effects.


Ok. But he was endorsing it and wanting to take credit still in December 2021.

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you might like Ron’s reason for supporting Puerto Rico’s admission into the USA


Ehh….I suppose it’s better than allowing Washington DC to have two US Senators.
Posted by Tandemjay
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 2:56 pm to
Uni-party power.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 3:04 pm to
Why did Trump change his stance on Puerto Rico:

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January 8, 2016
Donald Trump made a statement on Puerto Rico’s status during his presidential campaign: There are 3.7 million American citizens living in Puerto Rico. As citizens, they should be entitled to determine for themselves their political status. I am firmly committed to the process where Puerto Ricans might resolve their status according to Constitutional and Congressional protocols. I believe the people of Puerto Rico deserve a process of status self-determination that gives them a fair and unambiguous choice on this matter. As president I will do my part to insure that Congress follows the Constitution. The will of the Puerto Rican people in any status referendum should be considered as Congress follows through on any desired change in status for Puerto Rico, including statehood.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 3:07 pm to
Because unlike the legacy GOP you’re firmly entrenched with whether you realize it or not, DeSantis recognizes the inevitability of Puerto Rico becoming a state. Instead of doubling down on the stupid and outdated reeeing about but we’ll have another two dem senators, it’s better not to alienate these people for transparent and shallow GOP talking points.

Puerto Rico will eventually become a state. But you go right ahead and continue to act as if it won’t happen while simultaneously telling them how you don’t want them. Should work out great for the GOP.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 3:11 pm to
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The will of the Puerto Rican people in any status referendum should be considered as Congress follows through on any desired change in status for Puerto Rico, including statehood.


Considered is not "should".
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 3:11 pm to
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Sometimes "the right thing to do" is not the same as "the best thing for your political party."

In this case it is. Admitting Puerto Rico as a state would give us two more solid Democrat Senators. It would tip the country further towards socialism. This would be terrible for the people of the United States and terrible for the people of Puerto Rico.
Posted by Tall Tiger
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 3:46 pm to
What surprises me is that it only takes a simple majority of the House to add a new state. I think it should be 2/3.

Without the Senate filibuster Puerto Rico and DC probably would have been made states already during times when the Dems had the House and WH like 09-10 or 21-22.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62553 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:26 pm to
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Because unlike the legacy GOP you’re firmly entrenched with whether you realize it or not, DeSantis recognizes the inevitability of Puerto Rico becoming a state. Instead of doubling down on the stupid and outdated reeeing about but we’ll have another two dem senators, it’s better not to alienate these people for transparent and shallow GOP talking points.


So you support this? And, your reasoning is that Puerto Rico will eventually become a state and you don't want to alienate them? Did I understand your position correctly?

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:32 pm to
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Admitting Puerto Rico as a state would give us two more solid Democrat Senators.

Interesting to me that so many treat this as a foregone conclusion. At present, the only elected representative PR has in the federal government is affiliated with the GOP.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:33 pm to
Has anyone really taken it as far as “foregone conclusion,” or are you dabbling in some melodrama on that??
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:35 pm to
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Has anyone really taken it as far as “foregone conclusion,” or are you dabbling in some melodrama on that??

There’s several posts in this thread making the assumption that PR will add two Democratic senators. Seems like the consensus in the thread in fact. Hell, you’re one of them. You even used the word “automatic”
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 4:44 pm
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:41 pm to
Oh you’re talking about just the party identity of its two Senators, not that actual statehood itself is a foregone conclusion, amirite? If so, my b.

But mere intuition and common sense can or should lead to the two Democrat conclusion. Just consider it, how many Republican tyoes could possibly be resident voters in that island territory? Not rich vacationers and “snowbirds”…..the voting citizenry of PR. I don’t think I’m out of line in saying it’s a Democrat kind of place. And add to that Democrat community organizing for that purpose.
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