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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:32 am to
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2413 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:32 am to
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You've never hunted or fished in your life


he's like RFK talking about his pretend wife and kids having access to homo erotica as a concerned "republican"



first rule of trolling make yourself relatable.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
28541 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:34 am to
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Where is the lie?


That's why I like numbers and charts like that one, from reputable sources. Now...that said, it does come in waves. I do like that the source that provides those is real time, but it means your solar will go way down during certain periods.

I don't like building solar farms out on legit crop fields in places like South Louisiana and SE Texas. But out in West TX where you're not able to grow food crops like rice and potatoes, have at it.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:35 am to
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Renewables shite the bed in 2021 and so did gas supply.


A lot of the problems have been fixed. The natural gas supply is still an issue of concern though.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15271 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:37 am to
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he's like RFK talking about his pretend wife and kids having access to homo erotica as a concerned "republican"

Exactly
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3965 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:40 am to
Fwiw
“ Texas is a global leader in wind energy, producing more wind power than any U.S. state and, if it were a country, it would rank 5th in the world. “

There is a strip just east of fort Stockton area with a lot of turbines.. you have high land that is flat.. and lows …

it is also along a natural wind current global stream ..

there are lots and lots of wind turbines on the flat canyon tops and tons of shallow well pump jacks ( still operating) in the lows..and yes a major electricity transmission line in place.

It is interesting to see oil and wind energy being produced side by side.. and my goodness … minerals are probably also owned by surface owners out there ( old land barrons)… you make a ton of money by letting them put a turbine on your property. I can not imagine the size of their mailbox to hold all the checks.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41128 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:41 am to
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The natural gas supply is still an issue of concern though.


No it’s not
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3965 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:42 am to
“their huge tax payer funded subsidies.”

Are you under the impression the oil industry has not benefited from govt financial breaks for years and years and years?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14985 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:47 am to
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Downvotes, but no replies.


FTR, the first watts purchased are Wind and/or Solar. That is what makes them investments. Whatever they can produce is bought. Apparently, additional is not required.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:47 am to
I don't want to use a power generation that is at best 22% efficient. By the time you build the panel, transport, install, and maintain then you have a source that has a lifespan of 12-16 years.

Solar panel manufacturer will state 25 years but those pesky in capacitors have a defined lifespan
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
28541 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:47 am to
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It is interesting to see oil and wind energy being produced side by side.. and my goodness … minerals are probably also owned by surface owners out there ( old land barrons)… you make a ton of money by letting them put a turbine on your property. I can not imagine the size of their mailbox to hold all the checks.


Kind of all depends. Sometimes we don't like wind and solar amongst our most heavy drilling areas, because that infrastructure can get in the way. But there's some older fields where it's more about continued production, especially secondary recovery/EOR fields, where the CO2 or water pipelines network is already built out, so the solar or windmills aren't minded as much.

Thing is, in Texas, the mineral estate is dominant, so any financial institution loaning money to a solar or wind energy outfit requires a waiver from either the unleased mineral owner, or the record title O&G leaseholder before they will lend any money.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13204 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:53 am to
Grid reliability requires all the generation sources we can muster this day and age, with diversity needed to counter different risks, just like any other portfolio of assets.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6298 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:53 am to
It's about 26-28%, not 42%.
Posted by Roughneck2020
San Antonio
Member since Nov 2020
237 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:10 pm to
There is a huge difference between how tax deductions are handled by the oil industry versus subsidies given to wind and solar. Wind and solar need to be self sufficient. Plus, what is the value in royalties paid by the oil industry offshore and on BLM land?
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
8909 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:11 pm to
0% chance that amount is true.

There isnt the capacity
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:11 pm to
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No it’s not

Yes. It is.

I'm not talking about the gas plants themselves or the amount of natural gas available. I'm talking about the midstream section of the operation, the actual transport of the fuel. There are still some risks there.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23691 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:25 pm to
I just want clean air and water to hunt, fish, and enjoy my back porch.

Yep, nothing like going outside and seeing hundreds of 400 ft windmills spinning or not spinning. Really like to sit outside and look at the stars around all those red blinking lights... it's quite beautiful.

When the life of the windmill is exhausted they are able to fully recycle leaving no trace of anything left behind.

What a fantasy you live in....

Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12180 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:26 pm to
Do the same mix at 6 pm to 6 am?

Bet that Solar is Zero, unless Elon’s batteries are doing work taking the extra solar and storing it for later.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17506 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:37 pm to
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ITC changes are really hurting Solar at the moment. with ITC you could get up to 30% in federal credit for the cost of construction.

It's crushed the residential loan and cash market. Third party owned and commercial and utility are still going strong and more worried about all the FEOC stuff right now. It really makes no sense to me why they dicked the consumer and protected the commercial side.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25895 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:38 pm to
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Do the same mix at 6 pm to 6 am?

Gee, if only I had addressed that before you posted this.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
28541 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:54 pm to
Tax Break: Government taking less of your earned income.
Subsidy: Government actively handing over taxpayer monies to support your product or business.

Unfortunately, the two get blurred all the time when presented to voters, based on the narrative the presenter wants to convey.
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