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re: Is MLS part of the Big 4???

Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:10 pm to
Are any of the other major sports a Ponzi scheme like MLS?

And yes I'm just regurgitating what I've heard about MLS.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:12 pm to
When will people realize that rooting for the USMNT is not the same as rooting for MLS teams? Hell, everybody roots for Americans in track and field and swimming and other niche sports every four years but nobody cares about those sports after the Olympics are over. MLB gets all of the best baseball players in the world. The NHL gets all of the best hockey players in the world. Until MLS starts getting the Messis and Ronaldos and Neymars to come over to play in the United States during their prime, it'll never be as big as any of the Big Four sports leagues.
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:28 pm to
Attendance figures should be considered when discussing the top sports leagues in the US. Although attendance is only a small factor it nevertheless should be mentioned.

2015 NFL average attendance: 67,604
2016 MLB average attendance: 30,084
2015 MLS average attendance: 21,574
2015-16 NBA average attendance: 17,826
2015-16 NHL average attendance: 17,455

Of course, NBA and NHL matches are conducted in arenas. My statement would be that MLS overall is still outside the "Big 4" but getting closer all the time.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 6:51 pm to
You have to compare ticket prices, though. MLS tickets are going to be much cheaper, right?
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 6:56 pm to
I'm not sure but I would think that the answer would be a significant yes.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:01 pm to
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Attendance figures should be considered when discussing the top sports leagues in the US.


They are misleading in majority of cases. Leaves out way too many factors. How full are these stadiums, # of games, what day and what time is the game at, and how much are the tickets.

Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:10 pm to
Yes, as I stated, it is only a small factor in the overall equation.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29576 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:13 pm to
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and the revenue numbers prove its not close.

Tv numbers are far behind, partly because the deals MLS has gotten are kind of crap.

That said, MLS attendance is per game just surpassed the nba, which is a promising statistic. It's also the fastest growing sport in the key demographic of men younger than 40.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 9:28 pm
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:16 pm to
America is also just figuring out how to have soccer on TV as it goes against the established model. The idea of no commercials for 45+ minutes requires shifting the entire paradigm of American sports broadcasting.
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Are any of the other major sports a Ponzi scheme like MLS?

And yes I'm just regurgitating what I've heard about MLS.


Explain that. Never heard of the Ponzi scheme in regards to MLS. I'm actually starting to like MLS. Would go to a Sporting Kansas City game over a STL Blues game.
Posted by bayou2003
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Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:38 pm to
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You have to compare ticket prices, though. MLS tickets are going to be much cheaper, right?


I think the cheapest sporting KC ticket thru their site is around $35. I can go to a Thunder, Blues, Pelicans, game for around $10-$15, some on stubhub for under $10. Chiefs cheapest ticket are about $35, can get them on stubhub for $15, sometimes under $10. Looked on Stubhub for Sporting KC tickets, none that cheap, they avg $35-$40 for the cheapest ticket.

Soccer is getting popular in this area.



Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:47 pm to
It'd be tough for me to pass up going to any NHL game.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31211 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:03 pm to
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Baseball is not laughing.

You should do some reading on MLB Advanced Media and get back to me.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:06 pm to
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You should do some reading on MLB Advanced Media and get back to me.

Wait, he should go to the outlet owned by MLB for an objective view on the future of the league?
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
5592 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:24 pm to
Perhaps someone needs to compare average % of attendance. MLB plays a lot of games and a lot in nearly empty stadiums.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13467 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:46 pm to
I don't think most Americans could name 5 MLS teams.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14794 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:15 pm to
Baseball is making hand over fist

Local tv contracts are going into the billions.


Baseball isn't dying, and isn't going away. It's a myth that people like to sell.


Stuart Holden with an opinion, lol.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:21 pm to
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I concur with Stuart Holden's thoughts on baseball: "Its a horrible sport."
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31211 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:56 pm to
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Wait, he should go to the outlet owned by MLB for an objective view on the future of the league?

He should better understand why baseball's revenues are incredible. The baseball is dying myth is almost as dumb as 9/11 truthers.
Posted by cigsmcgee
LR
Member since May 2012
5233 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

I don't think most Americans could name 5 MLS teams.



neither could they name 5 MLB allstars.


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