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Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:40 pm to hendersonshands
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I don't have the energy to get into the debate again but Klinsmann was awful,
I have never argued otherwise however our fan base needs to realize its the talent pool more than the managers that is/was the problem.
How many qualification cycles have suffered under this same drama?
It's laughable and predictable for those that have been following this team for years.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 10:47 pm to kilo
quote:2014 was the 1st time we struggled since 2002.
How many qualification cycles have suffered under this same drama?
1998 qualified fairly easily. 1994 automatically qualified by hosting.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:20 pm to kilo
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I have never argued otherwise however our fan base needs to realize its the talent pool more than the managers that is/was the problem.
Is the talent pool the problem against fricking CONCACAF?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 11:22 pm to TN Bhoy
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Is the talent pool the problem against fricking CONCACAF?
Yes, at times, its the problem. were/are much more tactically proficient when our "stars" are playing overseas.
This post was edited on 6/11/17 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:03 am to kilo
Last thing I'll say to you because, as you've proved across multiple threads over the last 48 hours, you can't fix stupid, but it's just funny to me that you're argument here is the lack of talent in the player pool, when it's a fact that the pool is deeper than it's ever been, yet Jurgen from August 2014 to November 2016 was one of the worst stretches in modern US Soccer history...
Yep, coaching isn't at fault, it's the talent pool.
Yep, coaching isn't at fault, it's the talent pool.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 1:32 am to Broski
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Yep, coaching isn't at fault, it's the talent pool.
Where are the results?
You can attack me all you want but the "proof" has always been in the proverbial pudding. We are still at a point as a footballing nation that we celebrate a draw against our rival away from home like we just won a WC.
A rival that has never sniffed a WC final.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 1:40 am
Posted on 6/12/17 at 1:50 am to kilo
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Where are the results?
Literally everyone in this thread has told you that the results weren't there for Jurgen hence the firing.
Are you a glutton for punishment? Because I don't think I've ever seen someone get owned as much as you have in this thread by multiple posters.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 2:34 am to willymeaux
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Are you a glutton for punishment? Because I don't think I've ever seen someone get owned as much as you have in this thread by multiple posters.
The echo chamber around here is a little sad.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 6:26 am to kilo
Jurgen with a stronger line up at home against Mexico, loss. Arena with a weaker line up on the road against Mexico, draw.
There's your result.
There's your result.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 7:36 am to kilo
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We are still at a point as a footballing nation that we celebrate a draw against our rival away from home like we just won a WC.
uh
there is probably no home stadium in national soccer (outside of some in Chile) that has such a home advantage as Azteca
NOBODY goes into Azteca and has an easy time with Mexico, except maybe peak spain around like 2012
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Let's say we qualify and we get in a group with Russia, Spain, & Nigeria... is it safe to assume we are rolling out the 3-4-3 Omar formation just for Spain? Then take our chances with the regular lineup vs Russia & Nigeria?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:06 am to kilo
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realize its the talent pool more than the managers that is/was the problem.
How many qualification cycles have suffered under this same drama?
only the last 2, both under Jurgy
we have more talent than anyone in CONCACAF except Mexico
we have more talent/depth than at any time before in USNT history
we have only struggled in the modern era the past couple cycles under Jurgy
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:07 am to LSUGlory16
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Let's say we qualify and we get in a group with Russia, Spain, & Nigeria... is it safe to assume we are rolling out the 3-4-3 Omar formation just for Spain? Then take our chances with the regular lineup vs Russia & Nigeria?
that's a lot of future projecting and ifs
arena may not even be our coach next year
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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arena may not even be our coach next year
If we qualify for Russia, he'll be the manager at the WC.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:12 am to LSUGlory16
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is it safe to assume we are rolling out the 3-4-3 Omar formation just for Spain?
I wouldn't say so.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:54 am to hendersonshands
Last night was huuuuuggggeeee.
I agree completely with playing that Italian style. Play great defense and make the most of our chances.
I agree completely with playing that Italian style. Play great defense and make the most of our chances.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:31 am to TN Bhoy
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Is the talent pool the problem against fricking CONCACAF?
The talent pool in the region has gotten better with more players getting a chance in MLS or in Europe. If the talent pool closes the gap then the battle is won on the tactical level.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:19 am to kilo
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I have never argued otherwise however our fan base needs to realize its the talent pool more than the managers that is/was the problem
Klinsmann for at least since the world cup wasn't getting the most out of the talent we do have. You can't argue that anymore.
He was holding them back. We have plenty of talent for CONCACAF, and should be at the top of the Hex.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:26 am to kilo
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I have never argued otherwise however our fan base needs to realize its the talent pool more than the managers that is/was the problem
Then why would we play in any other way than the most functional system, if our talent is that poor? This was JK's problem, as he lacked real tactical proficiency. He couldn't teach the simple game so we could build on it to learn the possession game.
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