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Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:06 pm to
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pure stupidity

AKA Tigerdroppings
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26321 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:51 pm to
I honestly don’t watch any MLS and agree the league has expanded way too much.
However, am I the only one that’s very optimistic for the upcoming talent pool being created in the MLS academies? The kids getting to the age of signing professional contracts are the first generation that were able to play starting at a very young age at academies all over the US. Of course the studs are still hopefully heading to Europe but this will continue to deepen the talent pool here.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 10:11 am
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 5:10 pm to
No you aren't allowed to say anything positive about MLS.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126669 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 5:39 pm to
I think the major issue is that second and third level domestic player that stays in MLS

The quality really hasn’t improved and there is no incentive for top young Americans to stay home.

It really never works out well for the guys who stay
Posted by Girth Donor
Member since Apr 2011
4217 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:20 am to
An MLS team lost a two-legged tie to a Haitian team. Thoughts Ghost?
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
7176 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:43 am to
It was dumb of them to play mostly B players on an away tie in the Caribbean. That's on them. MLS is the reigning CCL and Campeones Cup holders. Real Madrid lost to a team that doesn't even have a recognized country last year. Sometimes clubs screw up by not respecting their competition.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6633 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:36 am to
Im optimistic I will get better. And will dominate CONCAVAG. But don’t ever see it rivaling the top 5 leagues in world.
Hopefully I’m wrong.

I’m cool with it being a respected feeder league of young US talent as well as a pipeline to Europe similar to shaktar donesk.

It be cool to get more loan players from the big clubs of Europe.

And will always dream of pro/reg

A model of pro/reg that is like to see. Instead of regulating the team(name jersey and all). Just regulate the players on the team. MLS would be the top flight LIGA MX would be second division.

If your team get regulated you pack up the entire team and they live and play for their minor league MX club.

Imagine the scenes
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29570 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:10 am to
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I think the major issue is that second and third level domestic player that stays in MLS

The quality really hasn’t improved and there is no incentive for top young Americans to stay home.

I’ve read this a few times but I’m still confused. What quality do you think is not improving?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126669 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:57 am to
The American players who don’t make it over seas

That’s the quality that needs to get better

That will help improve MLS
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126669 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:02 pm to
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reigning CCL


And lost right away in the Club World Cup

Also cost them big time domestically bc they don’t have the depth to compete on multiple fronts. Something you keep ignoring

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Campeones Cup


Dude no one cares about that money grab game, don’t pound your chest like it’s an MLS badge of honor

It’s just used to fill up an American stadium with Mexican fans

Just like the Leagues Cup
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6633 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:46 pm to
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It’s just used to fill up an American stadium with Mexican fans


Big game. Hostile crowd. Good for MLS.

Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126669 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:13 pm to
Sad hostile crowd at home
Posted by Girth Donor
Member since Apr 2011
4217 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 3:03 pm to
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It was dumb of them to play mostly B players on an away tie in the Caribbean.


This makes SCH argument hold up. A MLS team regardless of playing a B team should be able to beat a team full of carpenters and plumbers over 2 legs.

MLS could really advance and be the best league in the Americas in the future but Don Garber wants parity with the stupid fricking rules. The Cosmos were 40 years ago bro, let it go and let the teams spend what they want.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126669 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:39 pm to
You set him up

He argued against his own flawed logic and beliefs on MLS
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 5:11 pm
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
7176 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:11 pm to
Quote me where I said B team depth was the strength of MLS. I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126669 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:26 pm to
For sure a top team in MLS that won’t get relegated in Europe has the depth to compete in the CCL
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
7176 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:41 pm to
Dude you keep on talking about depth. We're talking about 40 games or so at most over the course of 44 weeks. Not the 60 games or so city is playing. If MLS teams are bad as you say they'd be bounced first round of the cup. I'm done discussing this with you. Never admit you are just out against MLS. Once again you would be the guy spamming laughing emojis in 2012 if someone posted MLS fees wood 8x in a decade. You've always got an excuse.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88473 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:26 pm to
You absolutely need depth across a 40 game season in the top leagues.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126669 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:38 pm to
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We're talking about 40 games or so at most over the course of 44 weeks.


So you are just forgetting the playoffs, CCL, US Open cup and Leagues Cup

Managers have already said it’s going to be record amount of games played this season

They want roster size expanded but the owners voted no. Because a majority of them are cheap and have no real interest in being competitive and they know there is no penalty for being shitty. But you don’t want to talk about that…

They would rather expand the league and make the depth even worse

Why do you keep ignoring these points

Get your head out the sand

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If MLS teams are bad as you say they'd be bounced first round of the cup
well two just got bounced in the round of 16 which is the first round

quote:

I'm done discussing this with you. Never admit you are just out against MLS.


I was going to MLS matches before you even knew anything about the sport. I enjoy watching it and have supported DC United from the very start of the league

You just have these crazy beliefs about the league and it’s actually comical


quote:

Once again you would be the guy spamming laughing emojis in 2012 if someone posted MLS fees wood 8x in a decade


No, but do you want to have an actual discussion about why the fees have gone up. The truth of it essentially a Ponzi scheme might be too much for you.

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You've always got an excuse.


Please list them……

This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Girth Donor
Member since Apr 2011
4217 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:57 pm to
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Its also fairly objective to say outside the Prem a top MLS can stay out of the relegation zone.


Just being honest, if you or anyone argues that the top MLS team would not get relegated or in a fight for their life to stay in the league in one of the top five leagues (PL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga or Ligue Un) I will call you out. They could survive in Holland or Portugal. As SCH said, the depth of MLS teams is a major issue. It's just a shame that parody is preferred keeping teams that could push to that next level into quicksand.

I was optimistic at first that MLS would be rid of the rules around 10 years ago but it looks like it's here to stay for the foreseeable future. It's like a Porsche that is stuck in 2nd gear.........waiting to be unleashed but stuck with a novice driver.
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