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re: USMNT v Panama Concacaf Nations League Semi 7:00 PM EDT 3/20
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:10 pm to WinnPtiger
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:10 pm to WinnPtiger
I’m irrationally angry about the fact that we are a worse national team than fricking Panama. They own us. What an abject embarrassment.
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:11 pm to HamzooReb
Completely unacceptable.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:23 pm to Dalosaqy
It won’t matter who the coach is… this will be our standard until these players get pushed by new players.
There is hardly any competition in the XI and it’s been that way for years.
There is hardly any competition in the XI and it’s been that way for years.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:23 pm to Dalosaqy
Hopefully they are better with more time to prepare/play tactics, but the shite looked like the shite from the last 10+ years
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:24 pm to texastiger38
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Hopefully they are better with more time to prepare/play tactics, but the shite looked like the shite from the last 10+ years
This is such a lame approach to take when the World Cup is a year out. Poch needs to be put to fire by the fan base just like they did for Gregg.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:25 pm to WinnPtiger
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agreed, this was not an MLS problem. this is a continuation of our years long “give a frick” problem
Yep. And playing these games in a cavernous stadium at 4pm on Thurs (with a $150 minimum ticket price) that's empty can't help motivation at all.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:31 pm to Run Ultra
- Musah shouldn’t play on the wing.
- McKennie flashed a couple times, but was terrible on the ball.
- Pulisic was off in his passing.
- Injuries fricked us, but they had injuries too. Also, they have a system set in stone. We are learning a new one. Not excuses, just observations. We should have won that.
- We lacked fight until it was 90’+. There are certain players in this squad that I don’t think are in it for America, but rather themselves.
- We lacked physicality the entire match. Got pushed off the ball WAY too much (especially McKennie and Musah).
- Passing was inconsistent. Just not sharp tonight.
- Turner ain’t it. Bring on Steffen.
- McKennie flashed a couple times, but was terrible on the ball.
- Pulisic was off in his passing.
- Injuries fricked us, but they had injuries too. Also, they have a system set in stone. We are learning a new one. Not excuses, just observations. We should have won that.
- We lacked fight until it was 90’+. There are certain players in this squad that I don’t think are in it for America, but rather themselves.
- We lacked physicality the entire match. Got pushed off the ball WAY too much (especially McKennie and Musah).
- Passing was inconsistent. Just not sharp tonight.
- Turner ain’t it. Bring on Steffen.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:31 pm to MetArl15
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I’m irrationally angry about the fact that we are a worse national team than fricking Panama. They own us. What an abject embarrassment.
I’m glad I’m not the only one. this one really, really hurts. not quite like Couva…yet. but aside from qualifying for Qatar(which should be a given), we aren’t in a quantifiably different place than we were back then. and i’m not really ready to seriously criticize Poch for the matter. but like Broski said earlier, hardly any of these guys get pushed for anything. they have to fight for minutes at their clubs, whereas this is essentially a vacation for some of them
which would be fine if they were wiping the floor with everyone in this rinky dink third world region. but they’re not. they’re sleepwalking
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:51 pm to WinnPtiger
Idk why we didn’t put Weah at RB, Luna at CAM, Pulisic on the left and McKennie on the right. Musah can come off the bench, or better yet have him start in the 2 with Adams.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:05 pm to Broski
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This is such a lame approach to take when the World Cup is a year out. Poch needs to be put to fire by the fan base just like they did for Gregg.
I’m no fan of Gregg or Poch for that matter, I hope they just haven’t adapted to whatever system there currently is, whatever just happened is exactly what we’ve seen for years though.
Possess the ball just to posses it, with no way to score other than to pass it into the net, or have a singular person do something heroic.
We’ve got 7 or 8 guys playing in the top 5 leagues in Europe and I doubt Panama has any, and we looked like a sky bet level team. It’s shameful, and I hope the players feel that
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:26 pm to WinnPtiger
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and i’m not really ready to seriously criticize Poch for the matter.
And that's fine, but I guess my question to that would be why not? Not to you in particular, but to the board and the USMNT fanbase as a whole.
Is it because of his club coaching career? his accent? Because he's not Gregg?
If anything, because of his pedigree, the way we've largely played under him over the past 8 months has been way more alarming than any poor result we've gotten with Gregg.
Don't forget, the first time Poch had the A-team together, we got absolutely pantsed by Mexico and now we look toothless against shite arse Panama. This fanbase was so sure that it was all going to be harmony in the post-Gregg era and now, here we are a year out from the World Cup, with probably even more questions than answers.
This is by no means a pro-Gregg post because he needed to go, but it just seems awfully convenient that USMNT twitter is just now starting to blame the players when they spent the last 4-plus years placing the blame solely on Gregg and that was even the case for matches when we won but didn't look dominant, like the 2021 Nations League semifinals against Honduras.
Idk man, I'm just really concerned that we are in year 9 of having the best player this country has ever seen and in that span we've missed a World Cup, looked meh in qualifying for the next World Cup and now look like we have no heart or fight as we get set to host the next World Cup in what will be the most important month for this country in terms of this sport taking a huge step forward domestically.
Things are bad... really bad.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:34 pm to Broski
Agreed all around. The players aren’t fighting, the tactics are nonexistent, and the federation just exists.
Whole shite pot of mediocrity
Whole shite pot of mediocrity
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:45 pm to Broski
What is going on with Gio Reyna.
I see coach after coach not play him.
Yet a lot of fans think he is arguably our best player.
Zero minutes today
I see coach after coach not play him.
Yet a lot of fans think he is arguably our best player.
Zero minutes today
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:47 pm to lsugorilla
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What is going on with Gio Reyna.
I see coach after coach not play him.
Yet a lot of fans think he is arguably our best player.
Zero minutes today
Danielle Reyna finna eat
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what austistic and/or ultra serious sensitive fool downvoted this?This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:56 pm to Broski
I feel like we have a generation of players that care more for their club than they do for their country.
We need a coach that will light a fire under their arse.
That will get in them relentless and not put up with shite.
No be their friend.
Not worry about making enemies.
Why I was hoping for Tuchel
We need a coach that will light a fire under their arse.
That will get in them relentless and not put up with shite.
No be their friend.
Not worry about making enemies.
Why I was hoping for Tuchel
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:04 pm to lsugorilla
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We need a coach that will light a fire under their arse.
A coach can only do so much in terms of this.
Pulisic should be the only player in the whole pool that a lock game in and game out for the starting XI because he is a top 50 player in the world.
Unfortunately that's not even close to being the case. We have dudes who never play for their club, dudes who are bit players for their club and dudes pushing 40 as locks for the XI.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:23 pm to Broski
Hopefully we see a REALLY young eleven and find out who among them is truly hungry.
Something tells me Luna and McGlynn will be up to task, at minimum.
Something tells me Luna and McGlynn will be up to task, at minimum.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:41 pm to Broski
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Things are bad... really bad.
idk. I’m willing to concede that I want Poch to work here so bad because there’s a narrative story that I think could propel us to taking our rightful place way ahead of schedule.
on the other hand, I don’t disagree with a word you said. this is as frustrated as I’ve been watching a match since 2017. I’m also willing to concede that I, amongst others, have probably vastly overvalued how good our pool is.
on the Poch topic though, i think the thing that annoys me the most is having watched his Spurs teams, for better or worse, go for it come hell or high water. not necessarily in the same way Ang does, which is going to get him fired, but still a clear, delineated way of how we’re going to play
now does that translate against France or Colombia? probably not. but in my mind, it should absolutely work against Panama. I’m just frustrated
eta-I also don’t think it’s unreasonable barring severe insubordination to question why Reyna doesn’t play against a bunkering team on a pitch 10% smaller than usual. not defending his club relationship(shareholder of Dortmund) or anything else, but I can’t handle how almost intentionally impotent this 11 was in possession
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:02 am to Broski
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Pulisic should be the only player in the whole pool that a lock game in and game out for the starting XI because he is a top 50 player in the world.
And Jedi. Hopefully we'll get some insight on what exactly his injury is, or if Fulham were just being dicks.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:04 am to WinnPtiger
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eta-I also don’t think it’s unreasonable barring severe insubordination to question why Reyna doesn’t play against a bunkering team on a pitch 10% smaller than usual. not defending his club relationship(shareholder of Dortmund) or anything else, but I can’t handle how almost intentionally impotent this 11 was in possession
While I agree, I'm also so concerned about his development and do think national team play should at least partially be based on club form. With that said, that kinda goes out the window with some of the guys we're starting.
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