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Tyson has elite separation skills. He would immediately bring our offense to a whole new level. Sign a guard in free agency and if you do somehow keep olave for a few more years then the offense would be unstoppable next season.
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re: Jordan Tyson or Carnell Tate at No. 8
Posted by Mpd31 on 1/4/26 at 4:13 pm to Dantheman504
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Because that only works in a perfect imaginery scenario in peoples heads where Olave is never injured again, plays through his contract, and the #8 pick isn't a bust. The downside of that is completely fricking up your draft and cap for several years while passing on another top player that can help another position. You can't just look at the very best scenario and except that. There's a really terrible outcome that could happen aswell. You are also ignoring the possibility of then taking a WR with that 1st or 2nd that you get for Olave. I'd rather trade Olave and draft a WR at #8 and 2nd rd > draft a WR at #8 and pay Olave.
There is a possibility of a terrible outcome with every pick in the draft. Your real debate is signing olave or not. Drafting a receiver at 8 or not is irrelevant in that regard. Whatever we pick at 8 will be on a rookie deal for 4 years with a 5th year option then you decide what to do at that point with the cap. Here is the thing. You are in an even worse situation if you trade olave and draft a receiver to replace him and you miss (Ex: titans - AJB trade for Burks). At that point, you probably just wasted several years of Shough if that happens. Even if you hit but traded Olave in the process then you haven’t improved your roster and only just maintained. We upgrade the interior line and give Shough an additional playmaker to olave and we are contenders.
re: Jordan Tyson or Carnell Tate at No. 8
Posted by Mpd31 on 1/4/26 at 3:15 pm to Dantheman504
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If you draft Tyson/ Tate at #8 then you need to trade Olave for the Buff 1st, NYJ 2nd, or NYG 2nd. And then draft another WR in the 3rd or 4th.
Why do we need to do this? The whole point of drafting a receiver would be to get another weapon to pair with olave for Shough. That would kind of defeat the purpose.
I like Tyson over Tate. Tyson is significantly more explosive. Feel he would pair well with olave and have Vele playing his big slot role. That would be a pretty potent receiving core.
re: Got to give credit to Loomis for hiring Kellen
Posted by Mpd31 on 12/28/25 at 3:52 pm to ColtTiger247
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Thank god Aaron Glenn didn’t want the job
Glenn would have been DA 2.0. You are already seeing it with the jets. Great Assistant Coach but bad head coach
re: Devil's Advocate: Should we Sit Shough in the Last Game of the Season?
Posted by Mpd31 on 12/28/25 at 3:48 pm to 3PieceSpicy
You do something stupid like that and you lose the whole team. Moore has the whole team motivated and buying into him and Shough. You have to keep that momentum going to keep returning players bought in. You should never be ok with losing and that should be the mentality. This isn’t madden. Involves real people with real emotions
re: This may be the strangest team in the NFL
Posted by Mpd31 on 12/28/25 at 3:45 pm to SloppyFrog
I think if you can upgrade interior of the offensive line and get one legit playmaker opposite of olave in offseason then you can probably make a good run next year if you stay healthy. You probably not all the way there yet but would be a really fun season and division is prime for the taken for now.
re: Clock mismanagement
Posted by Mpd31 on 12/28/25 at 3:35 pm to Bristol Tiger
Was legit the right calls in the situation. Just didn’t work out. The first play was super smart to try to flip the field bc the clock was going to stop for 2 minute. Lost 3 yards on the run but made them burn a timeout. On 3rd down he tried to throw for a first down and would have essentially put the game away where you don’t even need to go on defense. I have no issues with any of this. Just didn’t work out. I get running the ball and making them use their last timeout but I actually liked that we tried to win it there instead of going the conservative route. You are also boosting your qb with giving him experience in those situations and also showing that you have confidence in him to take those chances. In actuality, this is also a meaningless game so why the hell not? If you lose they still played great and you get a better draft spot.
re: Rate it PPR
Posted by Mpd31 on 9/1/25 at 10:47 pm to vidtiger23
12 Team Half PPR
QB - Baker Mayfield
RB - TreVeyon Henderson
RB - Isaiah Pacheco
WR - Justin Jefferson
WR - Malik Nabers
TE - Colston Loveland
Flex - Marvin Harrison Jr
K - Lutz
DEF - Eagles
BN
Matthew Golden
Tyrone Tracy
Brandon Aiyuk
Braelon Allen
Jayden Blue
Drake Maye
QB - Baker Mayfield
RB - TreVeyon Henderson
RB - Isaiah Pacheco
WR - Justin Jefferson
WR - Malik Nabers
TE - Colston Loveland
Flex - Marvin Harrison Jr
K - Lutz
DEF - Eagles
BN
Matthew Golden
Tyrone Tracy
Brandon Aiyuk
Braelon Allen
Jayden Blue
Drake Maye
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Wouldn't mind Saints going after him, I think he's at least serviceable has starting experience and better than what we got. And would be cheap
Browning won games with the bengals bc he was throwing to 2 wr 1s and 1 wr 2. Can’t expect a similar result throwing to a wr2 and a bunch of wr 4s
re: Give me some good backup RB's
Posted by Mpd31 on 8/23/25 at 11:00 am to Glizzy_gang
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Is it Dowdle or Brooks for the handcuff?
Brooks still hurt. He might not even make it back this season
re: “Shough has more upside!”
Posted by Mpd31 on 8/17/25 at 8:10 pm to Mushroom1968
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I think Shough will end up being a better QB but he’s not a better athlete than Rattler.
Rattler:
40 time: 4.95
10 yard: 1.63
Vert: 32”
Broad: 9.0”
Shough
40 time: 4.63
10 yard: 1.61
Vert: 32”
Broad: 9.9”
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If you don't think Rattler has a cannon then you don't know ball.
I googled the player plus arm strength and these are the first statements that popped up.
Rattler is “not considered to have an "elite" arm like some other quarterbacks, his arm strength is more than adequate for the NFL.”
“Tyler Shough is known for his strong arm and possesses what is described as elite arm strength.”
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Says who? You?
Someone already shared the RAS comparison earlier that shows why Shough is a much better athlete. As far as arm talent, it is pretty obviously Shough and it isn’t close. If you can’t see that then you don’t know ball and I can’t help you. Compare Shough and Rattler’s highlight tapes. Shough flashes throws that Rattler will never be able to make. It doesn’t necessary make Shough a better qb than Rattler but Shough has way more talent which is why he was drafted in the 2nd and Rattler in the 5th.
re: “Shough has more upside!”
Posted by Mpd31 on 8/17/25 at 5:50 pm to U_south_cack
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Spencer’s arm is better Spencer is the better athlete
Both of these statements are incorrect. That is where it is coming from.
Conventional wisdom would say Collins/Achane/Bowers
This is the obvious clear answer. Don’t overthink it.
This is the obvious clear answer. Don’t overthink it.
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One drive with a FG starting from the 50?
I mean it was obvious before the game was even played. The reason why Shough was drafted as a second rounder is because he has elite arm talent. We just don’t know if he can put the rest of it together but looked good on his first drive.
7 is a good spot this year. I am good with any of Bijan, Gibbs, CMC, saquon, Chase, Jetts, or ceedee in no particular order.
re: Need advice on keepers
Posted by Mpd31 on 7/20/25 at 6:30 am to UncleRuckus
Also note that the Sophmore slump is a real thing. Rookie QBs take the league by storm and put a year of tape out and DCs start scheming on how to stop them in year 2. It happens alot
I would keep Chase, DH, and Bowers. You have a strong core. Daniels isn’t as good of value in 4th round and qb is less important.
So I’m with the small majority that is very optimistic about Shough. Guy has legit arm talent. I’m tired of hearing the 27 year old rookie narrative. Guess what he can be our starting qb for over decade if he pans out. He reminds me Justin Herbert. Dude can absolutely sling it. You have seen what nfl coaching can do with talent and I believe in Moore.
re: Young & Granderson down to 265lbs to play 34 OLB spots (& and other 3-4 notes)
Posted by Mpd31 on 6/6/25 at 9:20 pm to bonethug0180
I think Can probably plays both end and olb. Early in camp probably having him start at olb due to it being the more difficult to learn out of the 2.
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