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Dantheman504
| Favorite team: | New Orleans Saints  |
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| Registered on: | 6/29/2013 |
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re: Saints has the fewest big plays on offense in the league last year
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/18/26 at 12:07 pm to Lester Earl
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A backup TE to a TE1 that is a backup
JJ was an all around top 10 TE last year outside of TD's, and that's playing with Rattler for half the season. Drops are a concern, no denying that. A majority would have been ok with Noah Fant as our #1 TE 2-3 years ago when he was a FA. To now have him as TE2 and be able to run true 2 TE sets is huge. The best/ only true 2 TE set we had was Graham + Watson/ Hill and that was over a decade ago.
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and WR4 to play off of the WR1 who is really a WR2
Olave's average with a full year of Shough last year comes out to:
17gms/ 102 rec/ 1,402 yds/ 12.75 TD
That would put him 4th in yards behind JSN/ Puka/ Pickens/ Chase and 2nd in TD's behind Davante Adams. He also had the 6th best "open" score in the league as Gyno has said. Are these closer to a WR2 or a top 3 WR in the league statistically?
We are going to add a WR2/WR3 in the draft. Polk is a WR3/4 with potential to be more. I don't remember us having a guy like that the last few years.
There is definitely concerns with these guys and it may not work. But people are vastly underrating their ceiling IMO.
Some of you are not going to be satisfied unless we end up with Chase/ Jefferson/ McBride.
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re: Saints has the fewest big plays on offense in the league last year
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/18/26 at 9:53 am to Fun Bunch
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Not that anyone needed confirmation.
We’ve go to address this more than once in the draft imo.
We added a stud OG, very good RB, a very good backup TE, and a WR. Its obvious we are getting atleast 1 WR and OL in the draft maybe another WR or TE. Not sure why we are acting like we haven't already started addressing this. Shough also didn't play a full season. How many of those plays were after he started? 4+ players expecting immediate impact and a full season of Shough is definitely addressing the issue.
re: What do you guys think about doubling up on WR in the draft?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/17/26 at 12:07 pm to GynoSandberg
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Tyler Shough’s opinion on Polk supersedes the opinion of Maye/Vrabel shipping off a 2nd rd pick, who had league worst metrics? How are you painting yourself as having the level headed take here ?
Not at all. Are you under the impression that a player who struggled on 1 franchise has never had success on another franchise?
Are y'all painting yourselves level headed by judging a dude who only has 33 targets? That's right, not receptions but targets. Is it level headed to base an entire guys career off only 33 targets his rookie year? That's not level headed in the slightest. ESPECIALLY after the opinions and attacks on Vele's career prior to getting here last year. That almost makes these opinions that much more ridiculous at this time. Y'all also ignore that the 33 targets came on a 4-13 team that was absolutely arse. That was NOT the Superbowl team from last year.
Hollins, Boutte, Douglas got the advantage last year building chemistry on the upgraded roster while Polk was injured. They also added Diggs AND drafted Kyle Williams. You are talking about a dude who started WR6 by default last year regardless of his play. Ever think that they liked the other WR's and were helping Polk by giving him a change of scenery? That's not even acknowledging the heavy RB/ TE use on the Pats.
If you believe its level headed to classify a 2nd rd WR on a 4-13 team with 33 targets a bust then I legit don't know what to tell you.
Its level headed to think 33 targets isn't enough data to know. Its level headed to think the guy does indeed have talent/ athletic abilities being 2nd rd value. Its also level headed to think he plays minutes this year after the QB says word for word:
quote:
"That's tough because there's so many guys you don't know who necessarily, you know, we might add or leave but at least for sure that I know that we're going to ride with. I think the growth and expansion of Devaughn Vele, and Ja'Lynn Polk as well, I think those guys have kind of been under the radar."
"There's so many guys we don't know about but here's the 2 guys that are under the radar and we are riding with".
Maybe I wouldn't be seen as a moron if I based my opinions off blind thoughts and empty opinions. We could announce that he's our WR2 and y'all would be so in denial that you wouldn't be able to accept it. That's how level headed y'all are.
re: What do you guys think about doubling up on WR in the draft?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/17/26 at 10:08 am to infantry1026
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This shite below, makes you look like a moron. Shough is going to say that he thinks Polk will make a difference…….that’s what he SHOULD say about his teammates. I hope he does make a difference……..but you can’t COUNT ON THAT.
If we draft a WR at #8, sign a big name FA WR, and hear anything from the team/ media about WR concerns then yes I'd look like a moron. I'd also happily eat my words.
But we didn't sign a big name FA WR yet did we? And the media/ team have downplayed WR concerns haven't they? Looks like #8 would be the last play.
You are calling me a moron for making logical deductions using the current state of the situation while blindly disagreeing without any evidence to support your claim.
Everything I've said has evidence to support it while your opinion is completely baseless.
Nothing I said is baseless. We did trade for Polk and take a guy all the way from Canada that we wanted on the team. We let all big name WRs sign elsewhere which shows its not a huge concern or that we like what we have.
If Shough said that Polk would have an impact and then we added 3 WRs ahead of him then I'd agree but guess what? We haven't!
We could announce that he's our WR2 and y'all still just wouldn't accept it or believe it. "Of course the team will say he's our WR2 but you can't count on that".
I can't argue with people who will choose denial no matter what happens.
re: List the players possibly available that you Don't want the Saints to use the #8 pick on
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/17/26 at 9:52 am to TIGERSby10
If we don't pick Downs/ Bailey/ Styles/ Delane then give me Bain > WR.
No WR. Its the highest valued position in the 2nd Rd per impact vs pick value.
Bain > OL > WR
No WR. Its the highest valued position in the 2nd Rd per impact vs pick value.
Bain > OL > WR
re: Breed of Peace strikes again- my 76 year old mother attacked by pit bull
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/16/26 at 4:21 pm to DonJuanDaMiles
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Can you nonviolently attack someone?
This dude has never heard of a tickle fight or name calling.
re: What do you guys think about doubling up on WR in the draft?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/16/26 at 11:50 am to infantry1026
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This WR room is even more thin than what the local media is talking about. They keep trying to act like Polk and Palmer (especially Polk) can be counted on ?
Why so glass half empty? Local media and the team itself have openly stated/ believe we aren't as thin at WR as internet fans believe.
Even if its 50/50 on whether they have such an impact, why the frick are we valuing the opinions of fans > connected media personnel and people in the organization like Shough?
The people with knowledge "keep trying to act like" something good is happening but the disconnected fans with 0 knowledge must be closer to the truth?
I'm not saying Polk has a 0% chance of being a bust. But if Shough says he will have an impact this year and an internet fan says "I don't trust the opinion of the guy throwing him the ball" then I'm more inclined to believe the fan doesn't have a clue.
re: Question about dudes that play Mahjong...
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/16/26 at 10:59 am to danilo
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Pretty happy to not even know what mahjong is
Its the new Bunco for women that don't want to be labeled "old" for playing Bunco.
But they are ironically just setting another old person trend.
re: Jeremiah Fears - 82 games played
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/13/26 at 3:10 pm to ned nederlander
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Honorable mention - Queen played 81 games.
This makes the overreactions from his offseason injury that much funnier.
re: Daniel Jeremiah dropped a mock draft on Rich Eisen’s show
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/13/26 at 11:46 am to Fun Bunch
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We aren't going to draft our biggest need that we didn't address in FA in any capacity?
Our biggest need after all the other biggest needs that we did address? Doesn't seem like that big of a need and WR rd 2 makes 100% since for the value vs the top guys compared to the value vs just about ANY defensive player. Its a no brainer.
Anyone who wants a WR in Rd 1 really doesn't think the Saints view Olave as a WR1. That's their own assbackwards opinion and sentiment. The reality is that Olave is our WR1, Vele is fine as a WR2, and a 2nd Rd WR could still end up a WR1-WR3.
People think WR is a much bigger need than it is. Its actually more of a want than a need.
We have (3) WR that the Saints want here and definitely plan to use: Olave/ Vele/ Polk.
Then you have (3) WR's that could pop off: Alford/ Austin JR/ DRAFT.
If you take away Olave (who would have had a record season with 17 games of Shough) you now have 4 other WRs who should be better than anything else we had behind Olave/ Vele. If we are being realistic then technically Alford/ Polk/ DRAFT could all end up better than Vele based on raw potential.
Drafting either of Love/ WR at #8 was always a luxury and not a priority or need. We aren't in a position for luxuries.
Y'all argued with me months ago about WR being a big need and how we would go after one.. Well we didn't, it doesn't look like a big need, and it looks like we will roll with the WR's that we went out of our way to acquire. Would you just look at that.
re: Daniel Jeremiah dropped a mock draft on Rich Eisen’s show
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/13/26 at 11:03 am to WicKed WayZ
For all the 5th graders that still think we draft a WR #8 please go write this down in a notebook 100 times:
We are not drafting a WR #8
We are not drafting a WR #8
And so on.
We are not drafting a WR #8
We are not drafting a WR #8
And so on.
re: I see the Saints trading up to 3... Update: McShay does too!
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/11/26 at 11:20 am to Handsome Pete
Why would we take the #8 pick and then trade more assets to move up when our pick next year could be #20? We shouldn't touch our 1st, 2nd, or 3rd this year. Use next years 1st, 2nd, 3rd to acquire a David Bailey type player who is already a proven NFL talent and then draft BPA at #8.
All this trade up talk for unproven talent. Use those assets on a proven NFL player if y'all want to give them up so bad.
All this trade up talk for unproven talent. Use those assets on a proven NFL player if y'all want to give them up so bad.
re: O line drafting, Lew or Dunker
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/10/26 at 1:11 pm to jmcwhrter
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That 2nd is just worth too much
I just don't see the value in what we'd give up to acquire another 2nd. There's better value in trading next years 1st for a stud DL (Crosby/ Lawrence) over giving up stuff for a high 2nd that could or could not end up a bust. Late 2nd is more possible.
(2) teams that have interesting trade up options:
Dolphins:
Round 1, pick 11
Round 1, pick 30
Round 2, pick 43
Round 3, pick 75
Round 3, pick 87
Round 3, pick 90
Round 3, pick 94
Round 4, pick 130
Bears:
Round 1, Pick 25
Round 2, Pick 57
Round 2, Pick 60
Round 3, Pick 89
Round 4, Pick 129
re: O line drafting, Lew or Dunker
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/10/26 at 11:09 am to jmcwhrter
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If you don't think those guys will be there in the 2nd then obviously trading back to get two 2nds isnt good value.
Mccoy has been projected closer to #11 than #43 so that kinda blows the whole thing up. I don't hate the picks its just a little unrealistic and the 3rds/ 4ths traded don't make sense.
If we make a deal with MIA then give them our 2nd next year and both #132/#136 for #90/#94/ Brooks or #73/ Brooks.
re: O line drafting, Lew or Dunker
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/10/26 at 11:03 am to Dantheman504
We should just trade #136/ '27 1st/ '27 3rd or 4th for Dexter Lawrence.
Draft:
#8: Downs/ Delane
#42: Chris Bell
#73: BPA OL
#132: BPA
#150: BPA
#172: BPA
#190: BPA
If we get Dex and add those other 3 guys we can just go BPA for the rest of the draft.
Draft:
#8: Downs/ Delane
#42: Chris Bell
#73: BPA OL
#132: BPA
#150: BPA
#172: BPA
#190: BPA
If we get Dex and add those other 3 guys we can just go BPA for the rest of the draft.
re: O line drafting, Lew or Dunker
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/10/26 at 10:55 am to jmcwhrter
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Trade with Miami
Saints give up 1st, 3rd, both 4ths, and a 5th
Miami give up 1st, 2nd, last 3rd (#90), and 4th
1. Rueben Bain (Tate and Downs still there)
2. Jermod McCoy (CB)
3. Chris Bell (WR)
4. Connor Lew (IOL)
5. Dontay Corleone (DT)
This looks confusing as frick. Should have put the actual Rds/ picks instead of 1-5. And #90 isn't the Dolphins last 3rd.
11. Bain (may not happen)
43. McCoy (definitely not going to happen)
42. Bell
94. Connor Lew (still might not be there)
130. Corleone (might not happen)
(#8 + #73) for (#11 + #42 + #94) is already close to fair.
Why the hell would we then give them pick #132 + #136 + #150 for #130 and let the dolphins keep their best 3 3rds? The only way that wouldn't suck is if we also get #90 and 3/4ths of the picks that make this look enticing aren't going to fall.
re: My draft
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/9/26 at 3:23 pm to armytiger33
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Kool-Aid is a number 1 corner? He hasn’t shown that
Many opposing views for the Kool-Aid man. I've met people who are confident he can't be a #1 and others who act like he could have been 1st team All Pro last year.
re: Are corner and DL our weakest positions?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/8/26 at 4:16 pm to bonethug0180
Agreed that CB is the biggest individual need while DL has the most holes as a group.
re: Are corner and DL our weakest positions?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/8/26 at 4:11 pm to bonethug0180
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That would be 2 DEs and a NT, as Cam, Young, Granderson, and Rumph all played OLB last year.
Potato Tomato, they are defensive ends. Whether its a 3-4, 5-2, etccc doesn't matter. We need 3+ starters/ rotation pieces on the DL (including the Dlineman that are called linebackers that play on the Dline).
re: Are corner and DL our weakest positions?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/8/26 at 2:21 pm to Lsujacket66
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they seem to really like Simpkins and Radunz proved to be a good asset… I wouldn’t hate trying to find a future replacement for McCoy though.
Simpkins looked solid enough for the backup C opportunity and is only 23 y/o. He very well could be part of that future replacement plan. We would have been ok with Fortner starting and he was not great up until last year at 27 y/o.
Radunz is here as a worst case scenario. Saldiveri is our big mover at both OG/ OT for the current roster.
re: Are corner and DL our weakest positions?
Posted by Dantheman504 on 4/8/26 at 2:16 pm to Lsujacket66
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I think ideally Broughton can take over for Shepherd and you’d have him and Breese as your DTs with a run stuffing draft pick at NT,
Broughton is definitely a big piece for this year. I'm worried whether Bresee being our starting DT for the next 4+ years is a good thing or leads to mediocrity. Great time to go all in for Dexter Lawrence at NT and then take Delane/ Downs.....
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