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re: Frank Wilson flirting with Texas
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:03 pm to geauxtigers87
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:03 pm to geauxtigers87
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with NIL, does someone like wilson matter as much for what he doesnt bring to the table coaching wise?
I feel like frank talk is beginning to fester… he’s not particularly relevant but will make himself relevant in a negative way if he’s gone. He’s got a captive audience for whatever reason. It just feels that way…
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:16 pm to Geauxgurt
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Name one running back that has improved under him after their first year with his coaching not named Hill and Fournette? You can’t because they don’t exist.
So Hill and Fournette were basically his entire first stint. And now in his second one…which one of those guys would you like to see on another team? You think Durham and Berry have hit their ceiling?
Its a ridiculous argument.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:18 pm to Captain Crown
Sark must be drink'n again.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:19 pm to OceanMan
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So Hill and Fournette were basically his entire first stint. And now in his second one…which one of those guys would you like to see on another team? You think Durham and Berry have hit their ceiling?
Its a ridiculous argument.
I think the bigger question is will they hit their ceiling playing under Frank. The answer for his latest stint at LSU is “No”.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:23 pm to RB10
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I think the bigger question is will they hit their ceiling playing under Frank. The answer for his latest stint at LSU is “No”.
They are more likely to bottom out to their floor than get anywhere close to their ceiling under Wilson.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:27 pm to Captain Crown
Bye
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:36 pm to BROpaneTANK
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This is a problem that needs to be fixed organically.
We can’t keep a coach that has 2 RB’s on the roster, underperforming, no 2026 RB commits, and 2 of his last 5 signees kicked off for legal issues because we can’t find another way to recruit the city an hour away.
1. The RBs underperforming has ZERO to do with Wilson. Offensive run scheme, play calling, and blocking is the reason. I don't know how many times I have to explain myself, but less talented RBs under Denbrock (and Wilson), averaged over 5 yards a carry BOTH YEARS. Only one RB each of those 2 years averaged under 5 yards a carry, and both were at 4.9.
2. UGA has a million players get arrested for vehicle charges. Yes blame Frank for things 2 kids who should have known better, but let Smart skate by because he's winning
3. Frank covers relationships with a myriad of recruits, regardless of position. I remember Mascona talking about when Ed fired Juluke. He had to do several things to get back into the good graces of those coaches. New Orleans is the recruiting hotbed in Louisiana. You don't think Kirby Smart keeps former Georgia high school coaches on staff? Both RB coaches he's had since he has been at UGA have been former high school coaches in Georgia.
This isn't something you play with. People don't even think when they down vote legit concerns. Texas has more money and they COULD have Frank Wilson. Having Frank Wilson and Brandon Harris going in home telling Louisiana players what Texas can do for them feels like something LSU should actively prevent.
This is my last comment on this situation until after I see what transpires post season.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 5:36 am
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:40 pm to Swagga
quote:Yes when the head coaching is in turmoil, and LSU looks a mess, how do you think a WR feels? Did you see our WRs this year? You're asking him to turn water into wine. LSU also has an entire year, if he is retained, to get Royal back.
The number 1 player in New Orleans for next year is already committed to Texas without Frank Wilson.
He’s not locking down New Orleans as it is.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 7:18 am to Captain Crown
In light of recent developments in Michigan you may want to change the phrasing of the thread title.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:00 am to RohanGonzales
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:01 am to Captain Crown
LET HIM GO !! His attitude should be..:"If you can't beat them join them!"
He got torched by losing Easten Royal commitment!
He got torched by losing Easten Royal commitment!
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:19 am to Choupique19
Since you didn't respond, I can only assume you don't have an answer. One thing about LSU fans is that your emotions often cloud your judgment and logic.
You guys continue to chase the hot girl when the one who held you down, you're no longer attractive to her.
News flash: Kevin Smith's wife doesn't like Baton Rouge, so he might not come after all. You better get ready to kiss Frank's butt.
You guys continue to chase the hot girl when the one who held you down, you're no longer attractive to her.
News flash: Kevin Smith's wife doesn't like Baton Rouge, so he might not come after all. You better get ready to kiss Frank's butt.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 9:49 am to RB10
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I think the bigger question is will they hit their ceiling playing under Frank. The answer for his latest stint at LSU is “No”.
Which is a loaded question, because I think both will continue to improve regardless of who their coach is. Berry got better this year, Durham was hurt but still had a good season…which didn’t leave much room for Jackson, particularly with the RBs getting so few touches mid season.
I just don’t buy this regression narrative, and the point of my comment is that people are more interested in Frank leaving than the players they say regressed under his coaching. Couple that with ignoring prior success of LSU RBs under Frank, who are we really saying has regressed? We barely had a running game the past two years because we didn’t try to.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 10:20 am to OceanMan
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Which is a loaded question, because I think both will continue to improve regardless of who their coach is. Berry got better this year, Durham was hurt but still had a good season…which didn’t leave much room for Jackson, particularly with the RBs getting so few touches mid season.
It’s not loaded at all. Frank has not been very good in developing the backs LSU has signed since he rejoined.
I’m sure LSU’s offensive coordinators have played a part, but so has Wilson.
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I just don’t buy this regression narrative, and the point of my comment is that people are more interested in Frank leaving than the players they say regressed under his coaching. Couple that with ignoring prior success of LSU RBs under Frank, who are we really saying has regressed? We barely had a running game the past two years because we didn’t try to.
You don’t have to buy it, but it’s there for everyone to see. His recruiting and evals have also taken a step back. He’s still good, but he’s not indispensable like some believe.
LSU has won with and without Wilson on staff. More without, to be honest. Either way, LSU will be fine.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 10:22 am
Posted on 12/11/25 at 10:24 am to Captain Crown
Frank will not coach at LSU after the bowl game. He is done.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 10:51 am to Islandboy777
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Texas going to open that New Orleans pipeline...uh oh
A mythical pipeline
The river parishes and rural Louisiana produce better athletes
Posted on 12/11/25 at 11:06 am to Captain Crown
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Did digging on the Texas side and Juluke was/is their first choice...
Why in God's name would anybody hire that psycho?
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:41 pm to RB10
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It’s not loaded at all. Frank has not been very good in developing the backs LSU has signed since he rejoined.
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You don’t have to buy it, but it’s there for everyone to see
Again, my point is that I don’t really see it, and I don’t think anyone has really backed it up with any thoughtful reasoning. Further, the sample size is basically purposefully small. It’s like 3 guys, and two of them are a freshman and a sophomore that I don’t really see how you can claim a regression has occurred due to limited experience.
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I’m sure LSU’s offensive coordinators have played a part, but so has Wilson.
Who are we comparing our RBs to? Which team has a better running game that didn’t attempt more rushes than passes. Most of the top rushers had more than twice as many carries as our two leading rushers combined. Is there a single playoff team that threw the ball more than passing it like we did?
We don’t have an offense that heavily features RBs in the passing game either which led to a completely unbalanced attack. However the running game produced more explosive plays than the passing game. I’m just wondering what yall are seeing that stands out from a coaching perspective to so confidently cite lack of development in the run game, that isn’t clearly a symptom of something else.
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His recruiting and evals have also taken a step back.
Again, he is the #1 ranked recruiter. That isn’t the end of the conversation, but I don’t know how you look around and not see that he is one of the best there is in this regard. What are we basing this on?
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LSU has won with and without Wilson on staff. More without, to be honest. Either way, LSU will be fine.
I don’t see anyone arguing that. I just don’t think many of these claims are warranted and have yet to see someone actually support this position that he has done a bad job. He might no longer be a good fit, but I don’t see that as a reason to make up lazy arguments that he has done a bad job by framing unfair and undefined standards.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:59 pm to Captain Crown
Their running backs won't be worth a shite.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:12 pm to OceanMan
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Again, my point is that I don’t really see it, and I don’t think anyone has really backed it up with any thoughtful reasoning. Further, the sample size is basically purposefully small. It’s like 3 guys, and two of them are a freshman and a sophomore that I don’t really see how you can claim a regression has occurred due to limited experience.
Wilson has been back since 2022. How many running backs have been drafted since then? What are the rushing numbers for LSU running backs since 2022? How many evals has he missed on?
Like I said, it’s there to see if you want to. You’re choosing to be obtuse.
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Who are we comparing our RBs to? Which team has a better running game that didn’t attempt more rushes than passes. Most of the top rushers had more than twice as many carries as our two leading rushers combined. Is there a single playoff team that threw the ball more than passing it like we did?
We don’t have an offense that heavily features RBs in the passing game either which led to a completely unbalanced attack. However the running game produced more explosive plays than the passing game. I’m just wondering what yall are seeing that stands out from a coaching perspective to so confidently cite lack of development in the run game, that isn’t clearly a symptom of something else.
Sloan was trash, but Wilson was here with Denbrock too. Denbrock went to Notre Dame and their running backs have been excellent.
Saying “it’s not Franks fault” is disingenuous. It’s is Franks fault. It’s also Sloan and BK and the entire offensive staff’s fault. If Kiffin doesn’t like Frank for the RB coach position that should tell you something.
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Again, he is the #1 ranked recruiter. That isn’t the end of the conversation, but I don’t know how you look around and not see that he is one of the best there is in this regard. What are we basing this on?
And again, he’s a good recruiter but he has absolutely missed some guys and missed on evals recently.
If his unit is underperforming (it is) and his major strength (recruiting) is waning (arguable) then his value is not what it’s perceived to be by some fans.
Lane obviously doesn’t feel he’s a must have on the staff.
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I don’t see anyone arguing that. I just don’t think many of these claims are warranted and have yet to see someone actually support this position that he has done a bad job. He might no longer be a good fit, but I don’t see that as a reason to make up lazy arguments that he has done a bad job by framing unfair and undefined standards.
The results speak bud. Frank’s unit has been bad since he returned in 2022. That’s not even up for debate.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 1:16 pm
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