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Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:23 am to guttata
Anyone Complaining about this hire is a fool.
Lsu just fired a guy that won a national title 2 years ago! Our Ad had to make a big Time Hire.
I know a bunch people Love DAranda, Hell he was a good coach when he was here and a Great Defensive Guy. But lets take away the fact that he coached here his record is 12-9!
Napier as good as i think he will be lets be real he has been head coach a ULL. The sunbelt is not setting the world on fire!
Woodward Really had only a few choices
The Big Time Splash Guys:
Riley would have been a home run
Jimbo (yuk not again)
Kelly a homerun (but lets be real nobody thought of him not because he can't coach, he coach at notre dame the most storied college football team of all time. Who would leave notre dame)
Maybe insert a NFL guy but was unlikely
Then he had the second Tier Guys:
Kiffin
Tucker
cambell
Aranda
Napier
I mean we got one of the biggest fishes you could get in college football.
As far as Age Look i wouldn't have mided going younger as well. But Brian Kelly will Stabalize the Program and we finally have a well respected coach that people won't Laugh.(our last two one ate grass and couldn't talk and the other just ripped of his shirt!
Dabo, Saban & Smart LOL yeah wasn't happening
Lsu just fired a guy that won a national title 2 years ago! Our Ad had to make a big Time Hire.
I know a bunch people Love DAranda, Hell he was a good coach when he was here and a Great Defensive Guy. But lets take away the fact that he coached here his record is 12-9!
Napier as good as i think he will be lets be real he has been head coach a ULL. The sunbelt is not setting the world on fire!
Woodward Really had only a few choices
The Big Time Splash Guys:
Riley would have been a home run
Jimbo (yuk not again)
Kelly a homerun (but lets be real nobody thought of him not because he can't coach, he coach at notre dame the most storied college football team of all time. Who would leave notre dame)
Maybe insert a NFL guy but was unlikely
Then he had the second Tier Guys:
Kiffin
Tucker
cambell
Aranda
Napier
I mean we got one of the biggest fishes you could get in college football.
As far as Age Look i wouldn't have mided going younger as well. But Brian Kelly will Stabalize the Program and we finally have a well respected coach that people won't Laugh.(our last two one ate grass and couldn't talk and the other just ripped of his shirt!
Dabo, Saban & Smart LOL yeah wasn't happening
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 8:30 am
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:26 am to Ace Midnight
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Certainly. Briles is toxic or would otherwise have a top tier job now. Rhule is in the NFL, albeit struggling.
I’m saying the last 2 coaches there were very successful. It’s far from what it used to be. I think Aranda would have been successful, but let’s not act like it’s Duke
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:28 am to jp4lsu
quote:yeah, cause there’s tons of guys out there who can do that
just was wanting somebody that could create a dynasty for 15 yrs similar to what we've seen Saban do
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:35 am to GRTiger
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Kelly is just as, if not more likely to go 10 years at LSU than just about any of the other names hired are to go that long at theirs. There are hit names every cycle that end up being a duds by the next cycle.
Let's see who is at their new school longer between Kelly and Napier, for example. No matter how many times we see it play out, some folks don't understand that young doesn't always mean 15 year one-school dynasty. It actually almost never does.
Saban was hired by Alabama in 2007...at 57 years old. How many "young HCs" have come and gone through the SEC alone during that time? Will Muschamp has already cycled through two SEC schools. Florida just hired their 4th HC in 10 years (the prior three never even sniffed the playoffs). Tennessee is on coach #5 during that time period. Kevin Sumlin looked like one of the best HCs in the country in A&M's first season in the SEC...until he wasn't. The only "young" HC who looks like he is going to have real staying power is Kirby Smart.
I get the appeal of hiring a guy in his late 30's/early 40's. If he is great then it could mean a 20-30 year run of success. But quite frankly that possibility has RARELY ever turned into reality
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:41 am to jp4lsu
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he is a defensive guy
wrong...
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:47 am to TigerStripes30
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quote:
he is a defensive guy
wrong...
His career started out on defense. Def coach, DC then he moved to HC quickly in career.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:54 am to Tigertown in ATL
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Nope. They need to be 10-2 next year
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there needs to be results now.
Or what?
I DeSeRvE WiNs NoWwWwW!!!!!
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Once Riley was off the table there wasn't a guy who offered this except Aranda
Until Saban retires, there isn’t a guy who offers this, period. Kelly is actually the best option to disrupt and give us a chance to win one championship in the next 5 years
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:07 am to jp4lsu
He’s an offensive mind.
And if you look at what everyone has been bitching about on here for the past two months he checks off all the boxes.
#1- his players are disciplined on and off the field
#2-unlike O, he has been an offensive coordinator and is a master in the offensive philosophy.
#3- he may know lore about defense then O and Les combined
#4- he has a proven winning record.
#5- he’s a good recruiter and has pipelines to numerous states
The list goes on and on. He’s done more with less talent then any coach in the nation.
And if you look at what everyone has been bitching about on here for the past two months he checks off all the boxes.
#1- his players are disciplined on and off the field
#2-unlike O, he has been an offensive coordinator and is a master in the offensive philosophy.
#3- he may know lore about defense then O and Les combined
#4- he has a proven winning record.
#5- he’s a good recruiter and has pipelines to numerous states
The list goes on and on. He’s done more with less talent then any coach in the nation.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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Woodward irrationally hates Aranda for some reason.
I think Woodward’s MO is guys with long track records of winning
When Kelly retires maybe Aranda will be ready
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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Once Riley was off the table there wasn't a guy who offered this except Aranda, and Woodward irrationally hates Aranda for some reason.
Sometimes I think you type just to read what you typed.
I LOVE Dave Aranda. Scott Woodward is a professional. As much as I like Dave Aranda, you can't say something like that. There's no irrational anything, or weak emotional responses for a guy like Woodward in a situation like this. He just landed the second winningest active coach in college football. How you can say it's irrational hate for Aranda who is NOT the second winningest active coach in college football is troubling for someone who purports to be the smartest guy in the thread at all times....just stop.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:24 am to tigerbaitlawyer
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We were pulled and sunk by one whale but while on the Nantucket Sleigh Ride, Woodward harpooned and reeled in another whale from a different pod!
You're still sticking to this story? Come on, man. Y'all got played. There's no way Woodward was throwing around $12-$14 million to get Riley, got outbid by USC and then, in the matter of 24 hours, pivoted and landed BK for $9.5.
Both the Riley and Kelly deals have been weeks in the making. I imagine the Riley to LSU smoke was Trace Armstrong trying to get USC to sweeten the pot at the end.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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if you want a stop gap or a potential long term hire.
A stop gap, is a winner for me. I'm almost 80, so I'm personally not wanting to wait for a dynasty.
Win now!
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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Once Riley was off the table there wasn't a guy who offered this except Aranda, and Woodward irrationally hates Aranda for some reason.
Not sure if this true or not, but I'm a big Aranda fan and he is a rising star. However, he only has 2 years under his belt, and I'm guessing SW wanted a more proven coach.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:35 am to jp4lsu
All the Woody haters this morning:
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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Woodward irrationally hates Aranda for some reason
irrational hatred = hiring a coach with a 263-96 record over a coach with a 12-9 record
Posted on 11/30/21 at 2:13 pm to Alt26
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Saban was hired by Alabama in 2007...at 57 years old.
He had just turned 55 a couple of months before he was hired at Bama and didn't turn 56 until he was 2 months into his first season.
Brian Kelly is almost exactly 10 years younger than Saban. He has already turned 60 and will turn 61 during his first season at LSU.
If you baws who follow coaching can't process the difference 5 years makes in "football years", then I just don't know what to tell you.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 9:22 pm
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