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re: Update
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:28 am to OldIowaTiger
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:28 am to OldIowaTiger
quote:No need to worry about losing Walker.
But then I think......if we hire Walker We're prolly looking for a new DC in 2-3 years or elevating O which we don't know anything about right now.
Charles Barkley says AD's are racists.
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Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:30 am to dos crystal
quote:I think this may be at the root of a lot of the problems this year, compounded by the Malveto magic. I think the "elite" part of the talent issue has to do with character, leadership, etc. I'm not sure I've seen much of that in this year's defensive team until the Arkansas debacle, we heard very little that sounded like leadership statements coming from our team. That has changed some now and I am hopeful GA TECH will discover a new and hungry Tiger, come Chick-fila time.
people say we have all this talent. i think we have talent. however, not the elite talent at key positions we've had in the past. at least this particular year. Some guys may step up next year and all is well.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:30 am to dos crystal
quote:very well said
I don't think anything is a result of one thing but a multiple of things. One, Malveto didn't have as good of players on D as we had the last 3-5 years. We didn't have cb's as good as webster, daniels, jackson and zenon. We didn't have safties as good as steltz, daniels, and landry. We didn't have an interior lineman as good as dorsey, lavalais, or williams, And we didn't have a linebackers as good as highsmith and alexander that can cover.
I also think the lack of qb play hurt the defense.
With that said, i don't think malveto worked. I think with two guy's there was a lot of confusion. the players were thinking vs just playing and knowing what they are suppose to do.
The statement with n.f.l. players is nice. However, it would be interesting to break down when those players in what draft and look at the quality of defense that particular year.
Ut's troubles have come with the lack of interior linemen. When they have haynseworth, henderson, overstreet ect they were very strong. I think the same can be said when we have williams, dorsey, and lavalais.
people say we have all this talent. i think we have talent. however, not the elite talent at key positions we've had in the past. at least this particular year. Some guys may step up next year and all is well.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:31 am to Ace Midnight
quote:
he's going to be the head coach at San Diego State
Uh, no. They have a new coach.
quote:
San Diego State: Ball State head coach Brady Hoke has accepted the head coaching job at San Diego State.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:32 am to Roaad
Chavis an obvious improvement over Mallory, but definitely not as good as Bo P
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:33 am to BilJ
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I am perfectly fine with that because that means his Ds have been very impressive
I would be too except that I think we can be just as good with Chavis at DC and have Mickey Andrews-esque stability.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:34 am to drexyl
quote:
If you really believed that Miles would fire the entire defensive staff and replace them w/in a period of 2 1/2 weeks then you are a dumbshit. If you've been getting your panties in a wad for the past 2 1/2 weeks because miles hasn't specifically addressed who he's firing and who his "top guys" are on the list then you are a dumbshit. If you entertained serious thoughts in the last 2 1/2 weeks that malleveto would be back next year you are a dumbshit.
Well, Guess what!
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:37 am to drexyl
quote:If you think I just woke up to the defensive problems at LSU since the season's tragic end, they you're the dumbshitt. If you think Miles didn't notice this problem until LSU lost to Ark and almost to Troy, then, once again... u r the DS. But if Miles didn't notice the problems with Malveto and the LSU D waay before this season ended, then who is the DS?
w/in a period of 2 1/2 weeks
And if Miles noticed the problem, but hoped to coast home and did nothing to begin correcting the obvious deficiencies at the immediate end of this season, then I just have to wonder about his decision making processes. If you don't wonder about that, then none of us have to wonder who the DS is.
Well, I'd like to play longer, but I've got things to do today. Bye-bye for now.
This post was edited on 12/18/08 at 11:43 am
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:39 am to BilJ
quote:I actually think they are a push.
Chavis an obvious improvement over Mallory, but definitely not as good as Bo P
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:49 am to drexyl
quote:
If you really believed that Miles would fire the entire defensive staff and replace them w/in a period of 2 1/2 weeks then you are a dumbshit. If you've been getting your panties in a wad for the past 2 1/2 weeks because miles hasn't specifically addressed who he's firing and who his "top guys" are on the list then you are a dumbshit. If you entertained serious thoughts in the last 2 1/2 weeks that malleveto would be back next year you are a dumbshit
This make me think we could have an epic thread,
"If blah blah blah, you might be a ranter"
Posted on 12/18/08 at 11:54 am to josh336
I think we've had one of those
Posted on 12/18/08 at 12:04 pm to OldIowaTiger
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Contrary to their record this year and the score of the Florida game, their defense was good.
Yeah, and their shitty offense actually outgained Florida in that game...
Posted on 12/18/08 at 12:17 pm to nycajun
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You can have Bill Belichick as your DC and if you don't have the horses, you're not going to rank highly. The coach can't make the tackles. That's why a coach's stat resume' isn't always the best, and is never the only, gauge of his talent.
Then the question becomes, how in the hell does UT not have enough talent? Since Chavis was on that staff, I'd be interested to hear what he has to say on the matter.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 12:30 pm to BilJ
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well hopefully chavis has calmed down on his demand to bring his ut staff here
That is a rumor that has not been confirmed. What makes you so sure that this is accurate?
Posted on 12/18/08 at 12:33 pm to Prominentwon
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Yes. either that or he just remembers how to coach every 3 years.
Great Post!
Posted on 12/18/08 at 12:38 pm to moneyg
ok sorry moneyg suspicion that he wants to bring over some of his defensive staff from UT. does that make you feel better?
another concern about chavis's D is the extreme lack of sacks and qb pressures
another concern about chavis's D is the extreme lack of sacks and qb pressures
Posted on 12/18/08 at 12:42 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:
No disrespect intended, but let me ask you, then are you suggesting LSU did not have the players this year, and that would be the why of why the Malveto scheme stunk up the season?
Our problem wasn't an issue of style. It was an issue of a poorly implemented style.
There were breakdowns all over the place, poor fundamentals, and a lack of a solid gameplan. I also question Mallory's ability to make the pieces work together as a whole.
Some may think that the style we played wasn't the best, and they may be correct, but it wasn't even close to our biggest problem.
Chavis (or any other proven DC) solves that problem.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 12:49 pm to belowpar
quote:
look for Coach O possibly Asst. Head Coach, D-Line, and head up recruiting.
YAW YAW!Posted on 12/18/08 at 12:52 pm to BilJ
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another concern about chavis's D is the extreme lack of sacks and qb pressures
That could be a valid concern. Do Chavis' defenses need great pass rushers from the front 4?
Could that be the difference between his top ranked defenses and his middle ranked defenses? If so, we better recruit to that end.
Having said that, the guy can coach. And, with our talent, we should see a MAJOR upgrade to next year.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 12:57 pm to moneyg
Ever since we came back against them in the SECCG (2001?), I've not been overly impressed with him. We literally won that game using ONE play, and they absolutely could not adjust. That kind of shite scares me.
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