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re: A&M wants out. Not wavering. Will not come back to Big 12
Posted on 9/9/11 at 2:55 pm to jackson123
Posted on 9/9/11 at 2:55 pm to jackson123
jackson-Say one of the great SEC teams (like LSU or Bama) tried to start their own network and decided that the SEC revenue sharing policy could just be ignored in that case. And then lets say they got $300mil that no one else could have a dime of. In addition, just suppose they then decide to broadcast H.S. games of recruits they the were after so they could "bedazzle" them.
Would the rest of the conference be ready to bolt?
Would the rest of the conference be ready to bolt?
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Posted on 9/9/11 at 2:55 pm to jackson123
Greed is Good sayeth Gordon Gecko.
everyone is looking out for their own. The only real problem I have with Baylor is not that they are looking out for themselves, but that they haven't made a commitment to athletics like the big boys (including aTm) and now the payout has come.
If they aren't going to commit to athletics, why should an ATHLETIC conference give 2 shits about them? They're trying to reap the harvest without doing any work.
everyone is looking out for their own. The only real problem I have with Baylor is not that they are looking out for themselves, but that they haven't made a commitment to athletics like the big boys (including aTm) and now the payout has come.
If they aren't going to commit to athletics, why should an ATHLETIC conference give 2 shits about them? They're trying to reap the harvest without doing any work.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 2:55 pm to jackson123
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ATM is not as good as UT. If they were, they would simply create their own TV network as well. There isn’t the demand and they know it.
Kind of like the LHN.
If there was such great demand for UT girls soccer or golf or volleyball, they wouldn't needed Texas high school football games. It's a giant albatross with very little decent programming. 
Posted on 9/9/11 at 2:56 pm to jackson123
I'm not sure its in Baylor's interest to be threatening lawsuits
IMO this is going to end their chances of getting into any other major conference and possibly most of the mid majors that have an outside shot at eventually upgrading to AQ status.
IMO this is going to end their chances of getting into any other major conference and possibly most of the mid majors that have an outside shot at eventually upgrading to AQ status.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 2:58 pm to jackson123
How is it possible for the SEC to be legitimately sued for tortious interference?
A&M leaves the Big 12 and then the SEC approaches and accepts them into the conference. I don't see how that fits the tortious interference, but I don't know a lot about law.
A&M leaves the Big 12 and then the SEC approaches and accepts them into the conference. I don't see how that fits the tortious interference, but I don't know a lot about law.
This post was edited on 9/9/11 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 9/9/11 at 3:08 pm to Colonel Flagg
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How is it possible for the SEC to be legitimately sued for tortious interference?
It can't, it's just meant to slow down the departure of Oklahoma and OK St. The Big12 had signed off on not suing the SEC until what happened? Big Game Bob opened his trap and started talking about leaving the Big 12. He even went as far as saying the OU UT rivalry might end. Everyone knows OU and Ok St are a package.
Baylor panicked because they are about to lose their meal ticket. I'm sure the scraps of Big12 revenue they get are millions more than they would get in the WAC or CUSA.
This post was edited on 9/9/11 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 9/9/11 at 3:09 pm to Colonel Flagg
quote:But I think everyone knows (whetherit can be proven is another story) that the SEC and aTm had discussions before Aggie announced they were leaving. They would not have have left had they not already secured a place to land.
A&M leaves the Big 12 and then the SEC approaches and accepts them into the conference
Posted on 9/9/11 at 3:17 pm to PJinAtl
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(whetherit can be proven is another story)
If it cant be proven then it doesn't matter. I don't see how it can be proven.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 3:28 pm to Colonel Flagg
This is by Brent Zwerneman who is our beat writer for the San Antonio and Houston papers.
Aggies hope SEC withdraws condition
Fast solution for A&M is if new league risks suit, acts regardless.
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Aggies hope SEC withdraws condition
Fast solution for A&M is if new league risks suit, acts regardless.
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COLLEGE STATION — No matter Texas A&M's direction from here, there's one place the Aggies won't be after next summer: the Big 12.
Following this school year, A&M intends to be in the Southeastern Conference, and assurances out of Aggieland on Thursday night are that an announcement on that front is simply a “matter of time.” If the SEC agreement somehow falls through — and chances are great it won't — the Aggies might go independent for a year.
That's how bad they don't want to be in the Big 12. Multiple A&M insiders have said as much — the Aggies have gone too far to turn around now. And, on Tuesday night, the SEC presidents unanimously approved A&M's entrance into their league in time for the 2012 season. On one surprising condition: the Aggies clear up any sudden threats of lawsuits from Baylor (or anyone else) over their Big 12 exit.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 3:31 pm to PJinAtl
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But I think everyone knows (whetherit can be proven is another story) that the SEC and aTm had discussions before Aggie announced they were leaving. They would not have have left had they not already secured a place to land.
The Aggies approached the SEC, not the other way around. SEC publicly told aTm to resolve their issues with leaving the Big 12 (-2) and then the SEC would formally consider aTm's request to join the SEC. Regardless of what discussions may have happened, aTm approached SEC not the other way around.
Legally the SEC should be in the clear, since they were approached by aTm (thus they did nothing to initate aTm's decision to leave, they just confirmed it was a good idea and that the SEC would be receptive to aTm's request for admission, lol),and the SEC did not take any formal action until aTm had already declared its intent to exercise its right to withdraw from the Big 12(-2) as it, Baylor, and all other schools agreed any school could do by paying a monetary penalty.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 4:28 pm to SEC Ag
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jackson-Say one of the great SEC teams (like LSU or Bama) tried to start their own network and decided that the SEC revenue sharing policy could just be ignored in that case. And then lets say they got $300mil that no one else could have a dime of. In addition, just suppose they then decide to broadcast H.S. games of recruits they the were after so they could "bedazzle" them.
Would the rest of the conference be ready to bolt?
No. Every school in the SEC negotiates its own 3rd tier rights. Some schools make more than others. It is not shared.
No on has been able to do it on the level that Texas did. But if they could, they would. And probably eventually will.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:17 pm to WavinWilly
Baylor football sucks, but their Athletic Department is quite good. They are 5th in conference titles behind Texas, A&M, Nebraska, and okie state. And they have a massive lead over the bottom feeders. They've won two national titles in the last decade, which also pits them in the top half of the conference. They aren't Stanford, but they actuly do have a good all around AD.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:41 pm to pdxlsufan
I agree with you there . just a stalling tactic. Cant stop the wheels that are already in motion. 
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:50 pm to Carlos Santannaclaus
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Kenneth Starr the weasel and all.
Maybe he should stick to sniffing stains on interns dresses
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:51 pm to The ChizMan Cometh
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Baylor panicked because they are about to lose their meal ticket. I'm sure the scraps of Big12 revenue they get are millions more than they would get in the WAC or CUSA.
The Biscuit wheels are coming off the gravy train.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:51 pm to The ChizMan Cometh
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This post was edited on 9/9/11 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:58 pm to elpechis
Way to stick to your guns AGGIES . What can those Bears do if you sit out a year as an independent and then come on to the SEC. Not a darn thing they could do then. Props to you all and hopefully you want have to do this and the Bears will wise up and see they cant stop the wheels in motion. Look forward to playing you guys once again and rekindle the rivalry.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:07 pm to windhammontanatigers
Can't the SEC just make plans for A&M and then when they are out of the Big XII next June we accept them in and everything is set up?
Posted on 9/9/11 at 7:46 pm to Chicken
Get aTm on the LSU schedule in 2012. Competitive team, outstanding fan base, enormous cfb TV market.
Lone Star State in the SEC: What's not to like?
Lone Star State in the SEC: What's not to like?
Posted on 9/9/11 at 10:49 pm to Dalosaqy
It is amazing how quickly the acceptance of us joining has caught on. Last year I was laughed off most of the SEC boards when I said we wanted in bad.
As for baylor suing. All they have to do is show that slive or the SEC contacted us first AFTER we signed the new contract last year with the other 9 teams.
They can demand emails from the public schools, and check any school records that are public domain.
If they think they have the evidence, they can file a lawsuit. Since it is between states, it would go to federal court. The SEC wants nothing to do with it.
As for baylor suing. All they have to do is show that slive or the SEC contacted us first AFTER we signed the new contract last year with the other 9 teams.
They can demand emails from the public schools, and check any school records that are public domain.
If they think they have the evidence, they can file a lawsuit. Since it is between states, it would go to federal court. The SEC wants nothing to do with it.
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