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Is oil an abiotic resource?
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:36 pm
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Oil Theory Explained
Abiotic Oil Theory Explained
Science believes that oil and natural gas are formed by organisms decomposing. How that process originated is the subject of the abiotic oil theory. At some point, inorganic matter had to be the foundation of the organic matter that would eventually create the fossil fuels. That transition, from inorganic to organic, is an evolutionary process referred to as “abiogenesis.”
When applied to oil and natural gas formation, that is how we get to the abiotic oil theory.
The first abiotic oil theory was proposed in the 16th century by Georgius Agricola. They continued to be promoted through the first half of the 20th century, especially within the Soviet Union. Because there is a lack of predictability in finding oil or natural gas deposits using this theory, however, it is generally rejected for the theories that involve organism decomposition.
How Could Oil and Natural Gas Form?
Several ideas that have been shared through the abiotic oil theory suggest that natural gas and petroleum have always been present on Earth. The initial deep deposits could have been formed from carbon deposits that formed during the initial period of planetary formation. Those carbon deposits could have come from asteroids, comets, or unknown special bodies that impacted the Earth during its formation.
Within the mantle of Earth, carbon has the potential of existing as hydrocarbons. It is usually found as methane, but CO2, elemental carbon, or carbonates are also possible. Within the abiotic oil theory, it is suggested that petroleum can be generated within the mantle based on abiogenic processes that incorporate this carbon.
In 2009, the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm reported research that suggests crude oil and natural gas can be generated outside of the decomposition of flora and fauna fossils. That finding provides support for the idea that petroleum and natural gas can form through more than one method.
https://healthresearchfunding.org/abiotic-oil-theory-explained/
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:13 pm
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:50 pm to loogaroo
Yeah. That’s some boosheet.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:51 pm to loogaroo
Maybe God put it there.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:53 pm to loogaroo
*Are
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:59 pm to loogaroo
Everyone knows that oil is dinosaur poop.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:06 pm to loogaroo
I have always argued that oil has always just been here. Just imagine roadkill and the tiny “grease spot” that is left after the body decomposes and is eaten by scavengers. Even a massive dinosaur would only leave a few ounces of material that could become oil.
Then again, I’m not very educated on the subject and could sound like an idiot.
Then again, I’m not very educated on the subject and could sound like an idiot.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:13 pm to loogaroo
Ironically, good ole Eugene Island 330 was once a case study for abiotic oil theories.
I think it’s reasonable to say 1) that methane can, and possibly does, form naturally from carbonates without biological material and 2) that our actual accessible oil & gas reserves primarily come from biological sources.
It’s kind of funny because the true believers in abiotic oil say we just need to drill deeper. Well.. no shite. We know that there’s oil available at depths beyond our drilling/completion capabilities. It doesn’t make any difference if we can’t produce it.
I think it’s reasonable to say 1) that methane can, and possibly does, form naturally from carbonates without biological material and 2) that our actual accessible oil & gas reserves primarily come from biological sources.
It’s kind of funny because the true believers in abiotic oil say we just need to drill deeper. Well.. no shite. We know that there’s oil available at depths beyond our drilling/completion capabilities. It doesn’t make any difference if we can’t produce it.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:24 pm to JudgeHolden
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Yeah. That’s some boosheet.
I’m sure the oceans or methane on the Saturn moon Titian is all from dinosaurs.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:44 pm to loogaroo
Serious.
We are not sure where all oil comes from.
We DO NOT KNOW what is going on below the crust, ideas, yes, know NOPE.
It is entirely plausible that there are mechanisms in the earth that produce oil that we don't know about.
I am not saying I KNOW what is going on or that the earth produces oil in other ways but I am saying I wouldn't be surprised if we found out if there was more to oil than we know now.
We are not sure where all oil comes from.
We DO NOT KNOW what is going on below the crust, ideas, yes, know NOPE.
It is entirely plausible that there are mechanisms in the earth that produce oil that we don't know about.
I am not saying I KNOW what is going on or that the earth produces oil in other ways but I am saying I wouldn't be surprised if we found out if there was more to oil than we know now.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:46 pm to OldSouth
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have always argued that oil has always just been here. Just imagine roadkill and the tiny “grease spot” that is left after the body decomposes and is eaten by scavengers. Even a massive dinosaur would only leave a few ounces of material that could become oil.
All plants have oils too. I think oil is from decomposition of all organic matter. It’s just part of a cycle like everything else on earth. There is the same amount of carbon, water, metals, etc on earth today as there was a million years ago. It just changes forms and locations. Natural resources are not finite.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:27 pm to deltaland
Posted on 3/25/22 at 3:45 am to loogaroo
So how come most oil and gas comes from fluvial deposits? Just coincidence?
Posted on 3/25/22 at 3:52 am to JudgeHolden
Also, and I’m just spitballing here, how do you explain the microfossils (Foraminifera) associated with oil and gas deposits if they are abiotic?
Posted on 3/25/22 at 4:33 am to dstone12
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Maybe God put it there.
Inorganic CO2 and H2O are converted to organic molecules everyday, which are now being converted to useful hydrocarbons in many refineries. Planting more trees can reduce CO2 and increase oxygen. God provides the mechanisms, what are humans going to do with them?
Posted on 3/25/22 at 6:53 am to JudgeHolden
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So how come most oil and gas comes from fluvial deposits? Just coincidence?
I don’t know. That’s why I started the thread. It’s interesting.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 7:01 am to loogaroo
All I know is this is some heavy shite for a Friday morning.
I think I’ll go fishing.
I think I’ll go fishing.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 7:03 am to GumboPot
Yeah there are plenty hydrocarbons on other planets so the dead animal theory never made sense to me. We that and the crazy places oil is found.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 7:25 am to loogaroo
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Is oil an abiotic resource?
This is actually in my field of research. I've studied, taught and have been quoted regarding similar theories.
Based upon (long) years and years of research, I can say with a high level of professional confidence:
Maybe.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 7:32 am to loogaroo
What I wanna know is why we can't throw a bunch of organic material in a pressure cooker and pump out Petro. Seems like we could speed up the million year process by a little pressure.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 7:51 am to loogaroo
Empty oil fields are refilling themselves. It isn't coming from dinosaurs.
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