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So I enaged the hyper woke movie/TV board concerning the Rings Of Power

Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:23 pm
I pose a simple question none answer, they can only downvote and cry.

If race isn't important then why change non POC characters to POC characters (because of course it matters)

And by the way I think every single relationship on the show is an interracial relationship, and when pointed out they say "why do care! Why does it bother you!"

Why did Tolkiens world bother them so much and they cared enough to change it. It was fine as it was, it is a white mythical fantasy based on nordic/Germania mythology.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:29 pm to
Truth will always upset those who are more comfortable away from the Light.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6702 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:33 pm to
Change one character in Wakanda to white, and the tune will rapidly change. It doesn't really matter. From what I've gathered, Amazon's take on middle earth is poorly written, acted and the dialogue is childish at best.

Just a word to the wise... if your values don't align with this current time of the world, don't bother with their adaptations of things you love. They NEED to change them to fit their worldview. Sometimes it's trivial, but it's always there.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:33 pm to
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If race isn't important then why change non POC characters to POC characters (because of course it matters)


I've made that point many times there as well.

If these changes are so unimportant and it's silly that traditionalists get angry about them, why make them?

It's a rhetorical tactic and nothing more. Of COURSE it's important to the activists that are altering canon to include actors and characters into stories they don't belong. They never stop talking about how important it is. The actress playing the beardless black dwarf (hahaha) literally CAN NOT stop telling every6one how important it is that Tolkien is getting fixed for new generations.

So if that's the case, how can it not be important enough to Tolkien purists (or fans of any other source material) to complain when it's altered?

This was just another example of The Left infiltrating a popular IP and basterdizing it for their own gain. they could have easily created some new fantasy bullshite with all of these things, but it would not have come with the built in name recognition that LOTR has. And that's the craziest part! Had they stuck to canon they would have had tremendous fans in Tolkien fans lauding how great it was and they'd have had normies how will watch anything too. Instead, like with all these things, they decided to try and appease Twitter activists and by doing so piss off Tolkien fans, which make Star Wars/star Trek fans look like normies. They're NEVER EVER going to accept any of this shite. So they pissed off the very fans that made this IP valuable in order to cater to Twitter activists.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
44735 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:36 pm to
Imagine whiiiite Euro representation in an African, Chinese or S American centric fantasy film.

Matt Damon was in a (bad) fantasy movie about the Great Wall of China and you would’ve thought he appropriated over 1 billion people.

Yet when they self insert themselves into a Tolkien movie… it’s the most stunning and brave thing ever.
Posted by Beaver Bandit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2015
906 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:38 pm to
Heard they also made Elrond and some of elves gay
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Change one character in Wakanda to white, and the tune will rapidly change.


That's the thing...I just want source material to remain as written. If that means keeping Wakanda all black, then so be it because to do otherwise would look weird. If they started plopping random white dudes or Mexican women in the crowd as if they were native to Wakanda I'd be pissed. But the flip side has to be true too. As much as I like Idris Elba it made ZERO sense to have him cast as Heimdall.



Because Heimdall was based on Norse mythology and looks like this.



You don't fix "White Washing" of characters in the past by "Black Washing" characters today. Cast as the source demands and that's it. And if that means when adapting source that almost entirely white, then stick to that. Blame the creators for creating it that way, but don't alter it...it's not yours to mess with.
Posted by Epaminondas
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5822 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:50 pm to
Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It’s Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of western power long after colonialism, imperialism and slavery have disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles Whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don’t grasp what it really means: humiliation. The White man presents an image of superiority even when he isn’t conscious of it. Superiority excites envy. Destroying White civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call “minorities.”

Joseph Sobran, 1997
This post was edited on 9/3/22 at 2:07 pm
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26376 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 1:58 pm to
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it is a white mythical fantasy based on nordic/Germania mythology.


Apparently, cultural appropriation only goes in one direction. I, for one, am flabbergasted.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
36478 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:07 pm to
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And by the way I think every single relationship on the show is an interracial relationship, and when pointed out they say "why do care! Why does it bother you!"

"Interracial" happened in Tolkien lore, though not as the woke crowd describes interracial.

Aragorn's bloodline is the Dúnadan. It was formed when the Elven great-great-great grand-uncle (iirc) of Elrond took a mortal wife, human, and sired halfbreed offspring that inherited unnaturally long life from their immortal elven blood. They were still afflicted by mortality, but their aging greatly slowed. Thankfully Tolkien wasn't all Game-of-Thronesy with the incest and shite.

...but that said, it did actually mean that Aragorn and Arwen were in fact distant cousins.

As far as the RoP thing goes, it was bound to be at least noticeably woke the moment they announced it. I haven't watched it and I don't know if I will. Some of my other Tolkien buff friends are going to report whether it's worth it or not. As long as they don't have buttfricking hobbits and dwarves, it might be tolerable.

Funny how far woke culture has come in such a short time, though. When the LotR movies came out, they used a predominantly white cast. The POC that were cast mainly were voice actors or native Polynesians who played Uruk-Hai. The trilogy won so many awards that it's legendary, in spite of the plot deviations and overall darker theme than the books... and no one cared. Nobody cared about that BS. It was good actors, good movies based on phenomenal books, and an inspiring story of the overwhelming struggle between good and evil, when evil holds all the cards yet good finds a way to prevail. But now those movies "aren't diverse enough"? FML.

NERDAxe out.

Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
113675 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Why did Tolkiens world bother them so much and they cared enough to change it


Because

quote:

It was fine as it was, it is a white mythical fantasy based on nordic/Germania mythology


You can't fundamentally transform without destroying first.
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
53281 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:23 pm to
It's just another front in the never ending total war on western white civilization.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63895 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:25 pm to
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So I enaged the hyper woke movie/TV board concerning the Rings Of Power


Most of the folks on that board have been totally cucked by Hollywood. They are watching what they love (movies and TV) be screwed by woke ideology and convincing themselves that they like it.
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2797 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:27 pm to
that board is full of soyboys who think marvel movies are pinnacle of great writing and filmmaking. they would literally throw a hissy fit if they watched the good, the bad and the ugly after realizing Tuco is not played by a real Mexican.

the Rings of Power show is absolute dogshit, at least in the LOTR trilogy they didn't have numales writing scripts and disrespecting the good professor's work.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
29165 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:27 pm to
The ones who support the show are tacitly in approval of the tokenization of black people for diversity purposes and social media clout. They're also the first ones to call other people racists if you think black folks shouldn't be used to push a divisive agenda based on skin color and identity politics.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48641 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:46 pm to
This is just another example of the fatal flaw behind any of the 'woke' issues. The way they interpret any situation depends entires on the outcome needed to advance their issue of the day/hour/moment.

And In the next instant they can take the exact opposite interpretation and it not only do they not realize it - they absolutely refuse to acknowledge it when confronted with their hypocrisy.

It is always (d)ifferent
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27248 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:54 pm to
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And by the way I think every single relationship on the show is an interracial relationship, and when pointed out they say "why do care! Why does it bother you!"


It's a retarded game they try to play...

Woke: *Cares that most couples in media are intraracial*

Woke: "Hey, let's add lots of interracial couples into media!"

Normie: *Cares that interracial couples are overrepresented in media*

Normie: "Hey, maybe we shouldn't have overrepresention in media."

Woke: "OMG why do you even care!"
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 2:56 pm to
Its funny because my brother is a massive liberal and two episodes was enough for him to call it dogshit and stop watching it.
This post was edited on 9/3/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28160 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 3:01 pm to
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If that means keeping Wakanda all black, then so be it because to do otherwise would look weird


You can cast all Africans in that. I vote Charlize Theron should be the next panther.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 9/3/22 at 3:04 pm to
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As much as I like Idris Elba it made ZERO sense to have him cast as Heimdall.


And he'll end up being a future bond to keep pushing whitey out of normal society.

This kind of garbage comes from things like the Broadway show Hamilton that explicitly states they won't hire white actors. Yet imagine a white group doing that.

All the black specific channels. Tbs with Black Friday nights.

At this point I really can't wait for pure euro traditional channels/shows/movies to pop up. Sadly we just can't depend on actors to have the nuts not cave for it. Freaking Chris Pratt was one that cucked himself out.

Yes...I'm not afraid to state that the last few yrs has done wonders in destroying all the hard work that was done towards equality. Screw it if they want us to be tribalized...then let's get it done.
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