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Federal Judge Appointed by Trump blocks Tennessee child drag show ban

Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:04 am
Posted by tigerinmexico
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:04 am
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MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WMC) - The nonprofit, LGBTQ+ theatre company Friends of George’s, has officially won its court case challenging Tennessee’s ban on public drag shows, on June 2.

On March 29, the non-profit filed a federal lawsuit against the State of Tennessee over passing the first-of-its-kind bill.

The bill banned “adult cabaret performances” in places where children could see it.

Friends of George’s sued saying the bill violated their first amendment rights.

"To rewrite this law would not only violate the separation-of-powers principle, but it would also offer perverse incentives for legislators to continue their troubling trend of abdicating their responsibilities in exercising considered legislative judgment. The Tennessee General Assembly can certainly use its mandate to pass laws that their communities demand. But that mandate as to speech is limited by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which commands that laws infringing on the Freedom of Speech must be narrow and well-defined. The AEA is neither. - Thomas L. Parker United States District Judge


WSMV
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:05 am to
Federal judges with the last name Parker tend to make really shitty decisions.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:08 am to
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Federal judges with the last name Parker tend to make really shitty decisions.


Yep.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8123 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:14 am to
I have not read the law so don't shoot the Messenger but ... if you accept that a drag show is "free speech" then it must be narrowly tailored

I would think the solution is to have the local level limit the time and circumstance for granting a license for a public show.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:15 am to
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The bill banned “adult cabaret performances” in places where children could see it.


Why is this controversial?
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:15 am to
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The bill banned “adult cabaret performances” in places where children could see it.

So kids are now allowed at strip clubs that require pasties and thongs?

If a society can't prevent the sexual indoctrination of children then why have any laws regarding children at all.

There are people that will fight the legalization of marriage of a 13-15 yo girl to a 30 yo man, which in the eyes of God within proper marriage is no issue, but will find no problem with the legal sexualition of the same age group, and younger, outside of marriage.

We really need a way to message it how the sexualation of children is a legit evil religious movement.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:16 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33676 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:25 am to
The judge ruled that the law is vague and overbroad, and needed to be re-written. And that he cant fix it for the State of Tennessee, as asked, due to the separations clause
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The Court concludes that the AEA is both unconstitutionally vague and substantially overbroad. The AEA’s “harmful to minors” standard applies to minors of all ages, so it fails to provide fair notice of what is prohibited, and it encourages discriminatory enforcement. The AEA is substantially overbroad because it applies to public property or “anywhere” a minor could be present

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Acceptance of Defendant’s proposed narrowing construction under the guise of the constitutional-avoidance would require the Court to rewrite the statute, and to violate the principle of separation-of-powers

The way the law is written, a schools dance line dressed as Michael Jackson doing an 80s tribute, could be arrested if one member thrusts too hard, during the halftime show
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:26 am to
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The way the law is written, a schools dance line dressed as Michael Jackson doing an 80s tribute, could be arrested if one member thrusts too hard, during the halftime show


Sounds legit.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:28 am to
Eh, unless there’s a pattern I don’t see the relevance of the judge being a Trump appointee. You appoint enough judges you’ll get some bad decisions, and that’s assuming this was a bad decision.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28160 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:29 am to
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The nonprofit, LGBTQ+ theatre company Friends of George’s,


This sounds like a group that has to register every time they move due to their offender statuses.

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Friends of George’s sued saying the bill violated their first amendment rights.


So ginger Lynn can perform felatio in front of these same kids? I mean...first amendment rights is rights.
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8394 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:30 am to
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There are people that will fight the legalization of marriage of a 13-15 yo girl to a 30 yo man, which in the eyes of God within proper marriage is no issue, but will find no problem with the legal sexualition of the same age group, and younger, outside of marriage.




Damn. Quiet part loud.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3809 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:35 am to
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The way the law is written, a schools dance line dressed as Michael Jackson doing an 80s tribute, could be arrested if one member thrusts too hard, during the halftime show


No they couldn’t
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:46 am to
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I don’t see the relevance of the judge being a Trump appointee. You appoint enough judges you’ll get some bad decisions, and that’s assuming this was a bad decision.
God forbid that we look at the statute that the judge was interpreting, when criticizing his ruling.

What is prohibited?
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It is an offense for a person to perform adult cabaret entertainment ... On public property (or) ... In a location where the adult cabaret entertainment could be viewed by a person who is not an adult.
What is "adult cabaret entertainment?
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adult-oriented performances that are harmful to minors, as that term is defined in §39-17-901, and that feature topless dancers, go-go dancers, exotic dancers, strippers, male or female impersonators, or similar entertainers

So, if these girls start dancing with a bit of Elvis-like pelvic thrust on a bandstand in the city park, they go straight to jail. Damned hippies.

The law is not specific to drag performances, and it is VERY poorly-written. The judge applied to Constitution to it, rather than engaging in implementing social policy. Egads.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 9:56 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33676 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:50 am to
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No they couldn’t

Thats exactly what the judge pointed out
* Anywhere a "minor" is present, would include a halftime show
* Drag - includes females dressing as a known male performer
* The sexual content of a show is not clearly defined, so an MJ thrust or crotch grab could be a violation
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:51 am to
Can you take a child to a strip club (with pasties) and call it free speech?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:53 am to
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The way the law is written, a schools dance line dressed as Michael Jackson doing an 80s tribute, could be arrested if one member thrusts too hard, during the halftime show
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No they couldn’t

Depends. Are they "go-go dancers ... or similar entertainers?" Who makes that call?

Pretty vague, huh? Hence the problem with the statute.

For that matter, these ladies regularly perform "on public property" in Tennessee:

Are they "go-go dancers ... or similar entertainers?" Do they engage in any pelvic thrust during their performances, in the eyes of some church lady or prudish DA?

Straight to jail, bitches.
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We do NOT trust the government, but we trust them to apply THIS law only against drag performer and strippers and NOT against the Titans cheerleaders.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8123 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:23 am to
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So kids are now allowed at strip clubs that require pasties and thongs?


That's a big NO

You know children are not allowed in strip clubs
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
82599 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:34 am to
Trump appoints the best people. . .
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26564 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 10:35 am to
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Federal judges with the last name Parker tend to make really shitty decisions.



Absolutely.....
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 11:19 am to
McConnell, china connected BS liberal Rhino, did such a good job appointing Federal judges for DJT ?

These old POSs need to be primaried since they don't seem to be worthy of immediate judgment by Jesus.
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