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Buying T-bills on Treasury Direct

Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:36 am
Posted by Herecomethehawks
The Hawkeye State
Member since Oct 2014
98 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:36 am
I am new to this...just made a treasury direct account. How do i tell what the rate is for current auctions? Thinking about putting some in 4, 8, 13, and 26 week bills.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
6604 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:13 am to
Not treasury direct but I've found Public.com is a pretty easy way to buy treasuries.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:26 am to
This will be a good resource for you:

Daily Treasury Bill Rates
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:43 am to
The rate is what it is. They have a historical prices through the last auction. The auctions determine the rate.

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:50 am to
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This is under the buy direct tab and you will see a link to historical prices or something like that.

The four week bills went off for 99.587389 for an annualized yield of 5.416%
Posted by Herecomethehawks
The Hawkeye State
Member since Oct 2014
98 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:52 am to
Thank you!

Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9316 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:05 am to
Honestly; it’s much easier to buy on Fidelity’s site…. Their app not so much.

Treasury Direct is a PITA…
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:06 am
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12845 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:20 am to
How is it hard? you click what you want and how much, boom, done, sign off
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:28 am to
I personally like that no third party holds the notes. I am not worried about Fidelty or Schwab but dealing direct is just a little less risky.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4480 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:57 am to
quote:

How do i tell what the rate is for current auctions?


It's an auction, you don't. You find out after the auction. You can guesstimate pretty easily though.
Posted by SaintsTiger
1,000,000 Posts
Member since Oct 2014
2072 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Honestly; it’s much easier to buy on Fidelity’s site…. Their app not so much.


Does Fidelity have auto roll? If so, does the interest paid every renewal automatically go to a money market?
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9316 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 3:33 pm to
They have a ladder tool which is pretty intuitive. Alternatively; an agent can set one up for you. Otherwise; at the termination date it drops into the holding account of your choosing. In most cases SPAXX.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25095 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:42 pm to
What is risky about Fidelity or Schwab? I struggle with why I need to own direct versus buying a fund that holds treasuries of what duration I desire.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
89976 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

What is risky about Fidelity or Schwab?


nothing. i bought mine before through vanguard. zero issues and i have a schwab account also.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
89976 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

I am not worried about Fidelty or Schwab but dealing direct is just a little less risky.




Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21002 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:08 pm to
I bought some 4 week bills via Treasurydirect just to test it. Worked fine, so I made another buy and told it to reinvest every 4 weeks several times (I think 2 years is the max). Each time they turn over, the interest earnings is automatically deposited in my bank account.

For those who buy through Fidelity or such, do you get a tax statement that makes clear that you don’t owe state income tax on the interest? One reason I’ve gone with Treasurydirect is to get a separate, clean 1099 with just state-exempt interest on it.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:22 pm to
well they are not risk free and even though their fees are small they are not free

neither was Bear Stearns considered risky in 2007---it was one of the most respected banks in America
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 8:26 pm
Posted by BourbonDad
Somewhere on the vol surface
Member since Sep 2016
208 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:09 pm to
But ETFs like TMF, simple
Posted by BourbonDad
Somewhere on the vol surface
Member since Sep 2016
208 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:10 pm to
Tbh Schwab has a ton of long term maturity on their books that exceed what it should….
Posted by bovine1
Member since Dec 2004
1366 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:26 pm to
I like buying them through Vanguard and Schwab. It's simple and easy unlike my experience with TreasuryDirect. Vanguard also gives you a projected rate a day or two before the auction.
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