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Pedro, or anyone else with youth running experience

Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:41 am
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:41 am
My 12 year old daughter has started to show some pretty decent potential as a distance runner, not like Olympics or anything but high level high school/ potential college is she's committed. She trains three days a week with her team. I guess my question is is that enough or should i be encouraging her to do more? My inclination is to push some but I don't want to be that dad and burn her out physically or mentally. What's a good training routine do a 12 year old?
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:22 am to
Just encourage her to keep doing what she likes to do. You'll want to start breaking down her training as she gets older. Kids are naturally going to be getting stronger as they grow up and continue to move around. Consider some cross training stuff to make sure she doesn't get burnt out with just running unless she really likes running. For all you know, she may enjoy the activity just because her friends do it.

What times are we looking at?
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:51 am to
Double threshold, start pricking her ear to do lactate readings after reps, encourage her to get an eating disorder to drop her times to win some meaningless high school races
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Double threshold, start pricking her ear to do lactate readings after reps, encourage her to get an eating disorder to drop her times to win some meaningless high school races


Alberto Salazar is that you?!
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:02 pm to
Would have a coach design a running program. This sounds like a difficult thing for dad to encourage more effort. But you can be there for every step of the way as she works on the program she commits to follow.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Would have a coach design a running program. This sounds like a difficult thing for dad to encourage more effort. But you can be there for every step of the way as she works on the program she commits to follow.


This is what you should do. More than likely there is someone in your town or nearby that is a running coach.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:17 pm to
How about ask what her what she wants? I have a friend who makes a contract with his kids on what they want to achieve and then he helps them and holds them accountable.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:54 pm to
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How about ask what her what she wants? I have a friend who makes a contract with his kids on what they want to achieve and then he helps them and holds them accountable.




I like that idea. I can't remember who said it, but most seemed to think that the great high school track kids are burned out by the time college rolls around.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:12 pm to
My niece is in the same boat right now. Just ran her third half at age 12 in 1:45. I keep telling my sister to just let running be her thing for now. I’ve seen way too many people with huge potential burn out on it from being pushed too hard. For the next year or so just make sure you’re making the experience as fun as possible for her and let her take it as serious as she wants. If she seems like she’s starting to want a little more than let her do it within reason.


Runnings just such a mental sport it’s so easy to burn out and hate it. She’ll have plenty of time to grow into it and get better. If she’s starting at 11 she’s already ahead of most.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:13 pm to
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Double threshold, start pricking her ear to do lactate readings after reps, encourage her to get an eating disorder to drop her times to win some meaningless high school races
alright Alberto
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:19 pm to
As a parent of three distance runners, start focusing on injury prevention now.

Really like Knees Over Toes Guy stuff and Mobo board for this. Add in some well rounded strength work twice a week or so (my distance runners all lift heavy).
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Really like Knees Over Toes Guy stuff and Mobo board for this. Add in some well rounded strength work twice a week or so (my distance runners all lift heavy).


All of this. I'd add something like Movement Vault too for mobility.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:37 pm to
She's 12, of course she says she "wants" to commit and run in college or whatever but she doesn't really understand what that entails yet. Right now she likes running because she is having some success with it despite not really having to work at it which obviously is a motivator. To get to an elite level is going to require a much bigger commitment on her part though so just not sure if/when to push that button.

I don't see her doing halves any time soon but she just ran her 3rd 5k in 21:30 and it was cold cold out. She's knocked off about a min and a half each time with about six weeks in between each and minimal training.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:37 pm to
Yea I’d say to ease off until her freshman year. That would be when I’d start pushing that button.

That’s a damn good time for age 12 though. To put it into prospective my girls team finished 7th in Kansas 5A this year (would’ve been 4th if not for a damn stress fracture my number 2 got but I digress) and she would’ve been just outside of our varsity group with that time. My number 7 was like 21:12 I think.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 6:38 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:34 pm to
Do you typically see a lot of improvement from girls from freshmen year to senior? Do you guys have a junior program? When does the most development typically occur?
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:35 pm to
My daughter is a sophomore and didn’t start until middle school track in 8th grade. She played soccer for years and eventually got burned out on practices and traveling to games. She is fast but loved playing back on defense. Never really got the ball handling skills to be good for her age.

That being said she loves running. She tried several events last year and started with JV but by the end of the year was running with the varsity. She qualified for state in 400M and 4x400. Their 4x400 relay team came in 7th overall with 3 freshmen and an 8th grader.

The only advice I can give is from our experiences and that is to stay on top of warm ups and cool downs and stretching. She got a bad case of shin splints, probably from trying to run 300M hurdles on top of 200s, 400s, and relays. We’ve been through some PT this past fall leading up to indoor season. Focus on strength work as well. Also make the practice days easy if she ends up running on a team. My daughter has a tendency to want to race in every workout. She has to consciously slow down to not over exert herself until she is warmed up.

Keep it light and fun and save the all out for races. It’s a great hobby for all ages. After the outdoor season I’m going to run with her over the summer a few days a week. Sounds like you’ve got a distance runner and that takes a whole other level of discipline. I’d love for my daughter to try something longer. Maybe not 1600 or 3200 but an 800 I think would be her sweet spot. She can hang with other girls in a 200, and excels at 400, but doesn’t get out fast enough for a 100. I think running an 800 would be great for her and only improve her 400 time.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:21 pm to
Exact same situation here, played soccer for years. Got to the point where we were traveling all over the southeast just for regular league games and that just wasn't for her. Yes, definitely excels more the longer the distance. She ran 6:18 in her first 1600 on the track last week. She lacks the speed/strength to have top end speed or be elite though. Which is really what i want to know is is it too early to start adding that in to her regular runs?
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 5:53 am to
Just checked on Milesplit and a 6:18 puts her in the top 50 7th graders in AL (used AL seeing your Auburn logo).

Has she officially joined JR High Cross Country yet?

Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:15 am to
She's sixth grade and yeah she did cross country in the fall and just started track like three weeks ago. She's at a really good feeder program with really good coaches so hopefully it'll be am environment she can thrive in
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:37 am to
That’s great - my advice then is to let the coaches coach running, no extra volume for now. Focus on a few strength/injury prevention things at home.

If you do Knees Over Toes she will completely prevent shin splints and knee issues by high school. Really recommend a Mobo board for foot strength and stability.
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