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Dale Brown
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:06 am
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:06 am
Will he be there tonight? I hope the fans treat him with class. Is there a list of former players who will be there and can you watch on the computer?
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Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:11 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
Dale regardless of your opinion of him as a coach, is a real class guy and tribute to LSU.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:36 am to munchman
He was at the mississippi state game
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:38 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
The 100 year celebration is next Saturday at the Arkansas game
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:42 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Will he be there tonight? I hope the fans treat him with class.
He's been to several games.
Never was a big fan or apologist for Dale for many and varied reasons. But, I won't disrespect him.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:50 am to munchman
Brown was great for LSU basketball. Now that we know the Lester Earl fiasco was a sham, and have seen the classy way Brown comported himself in the aftermath including during Earl's admissions of duplicity, why wouldn't he get standing O's where ever he appears on campus?
Why as well would not the Baton Rouge press have gone after Roy Williams and the NCAA when complicity in the Earl affair became evident? How Williams as a culprit goes untarnished, while Brown a victim gets sullied is beyond me. Adding insult to injury, for 10yrs John Brady diss'd Dale for the Earl fiasco and probation. He even did it in his final press conference. The man wasn't fit to carry Dale Brown's water. The press carried nearly every word. When Lester Earl came clean . . . . crickets. Ahhh, yes, the prestige of modern US journalism once again manifested.
Why as well would not the Baton Rouge press have gone after Roy Williams and the NCAA when complicity in the Earl affair became evident? How Williams as a culprit goes untarnished, while Brown a victim gets sullied is beyond me. Adding insult to injury, for 10yrs John Brady diss'd Dale for the Earl fiasco and probation. He even did it in his final press conference. The man wasn't fit to carry Dale Brown's water. The press carried nearly every word. When Lester Earl came clean . . . . crickets. Ahhh, yes, the prestige of modern US journalism once again manifested.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 8:57 am to NC_Tigah
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while Brown a victim gets sullied is beyond me.
I think portraying Brown as an innocent victim in the whole affair who did no wrong and was classy all the way is a stretch to be kind NC Tigah.
Roy did get off Scott free (don't forget Luke Axhelm transferred there around the same time) and I'm with ya' on that.
But it's over and done with. Dale gave me some great memories and that I appreciate. And he has a genuine charitable disposition that is admirable. But there's another side to Dale that ain't all peaches and cream.
I've forgiven and moved on, and I'll give him a golf clap for the memories.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:09 am to NC_Tigah
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Brown was great for LSU basketball. Now that we know the Lester Earl fiasco was a sham, and have seen the classy way Brown comported himself in the aftermath including during Earl's admissions of duplicity, why wouldn't he get standing O's where ever he appears on campus?
Why as well would not the Baton Rouge press have gone after Roy Williams and the NCAA when complicity in the Earl affair became evident? How Williams as a culprit goes untarnished, while Brown a victim gets sullied is beyond me. Adding insult to injury, for 10yrs John Brady diss'd Dale for the Earl fiasco and probation. He even did it in his final press conference. The man wasn't fit to carry Dale Brown's water. The press carried nearly every word. When Lester Earl came clean . . . . crickets. Ahhh, yes, the prestige of modern US journalism once again manifested.
Good words, NC.
I have to ask myself, though, how an obviously educated person like yourself ended up on the Rant.....
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:09 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
Dale said he was going to try attend every game he possibly can. He really likes Coach T and wants to support him
Brady missed the boat here
Brady missed the boat here
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:21 am to 756
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Brady missed the boat here
Trent is handling it well, much better than Brady. I don't know that Dale can really help the program all that much but he can sure hurt it.
Brady included Dale is some stuff early on. I went to a couple of 6th man club deals where he invited him in introduced him, praised him (to the extent that Brady can praise) and let him speak. But butt kissing just ain't Brady's way. What you see is what you get with Brady and that's an acerbic, cranky fellow.
Trent's smart enough and in control enough to handle Dale and CT2 the right way...something Brady did not and it hurt him.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:32 am to Tiger Ugly
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Trent is handling it well, much better than Brady.
Brady left a lot of talent for Trent....too early to tell, but Trent has done good in the past, but so did Brady.....
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:40 am to Bobby Moore
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Brady left a lot of talent for Trent....too early to tell, but Trent has done good in the past, but so did Brady.....
I wouldn't say alot of talent but I do think he left 5 good and experience players which is much better than what Brady inherited upon his taking the job.
I think many folks don't care to acknowledge LSU has some good player because that might brush against being a backhanded compliment to Brady.
Trent looks to be a solid coach. Recruiting will make or break as next year outside of Taz and Spencer there will be nothin but inexperience and question marks.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:42 am to Tiger Ugly
quote:I thought you actually knew a little something about Daddy Dale until I read this.
don't know that Dale can really help the program all that much but he can sure hurt it.
Even remote speculation that Dale would hurt the LSU BB program is ridiculous. Have you ever had the chance to talk to Dale since his retirement? While Brady was periodically taking shots at Dale over the last decade, did Dale ever do anything adverse towards the program??
I'm embarrassed that any LSU fan would suggest something like this....
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:48 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
I happen to be a huge Dale Brown fan. Maybr that is because I grew up on LSU basketball during the Brown era. He always made sure his teams played hard and got a lot from a little. We could talk all day about "wasted opportunity" and "wasted talent", but I am not sure that it is fair. It has been well discussed here on the rant some of the failings of those teams LSU had during the Brown years.
Most people like to point to the one year of O'neal, Jackson, and Roberts. While that team was exceptionally talented they were also very young and raw, not to mention (we didn't know at the time) Jackson and Roberts were/are head cases.
Dale is a class act and deserves much thanks from the LSU community.
Most people like to point to the one year of O'neal, Jackson, and Roberts. While that team was exceptionally talented they were also very young and raw, not to mention (we didn't know at the time) Jackson and Roberts were/are head cases.
Dale is a class act and deserves much thanks from the LSU community.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:49 am to LSUME86
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I'm embarrassed that any LSU fan would suggest something like this....
I do know a little bit about Dale ME86. There's longtime relationship with the program with my family that afforded me alot of access and information dating back to 1980.
What he does in a charitable vein is very commendable and more than I'll ever do in my lifetime.
As an imperfect soul, you're right. It might not be best for me to throw stones so I'll leave it at that.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:57 am to Tiger Ugly
Not trying to cause a ruckus or anything, just standing up for the "public" side of Dale and LSU.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:00 am to LSUME86
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Not trying to cause a ruckus or anything, just standing up for the "public" side of Dale and LSU.
Your motives and intention are good ME86.
Mine maybe not so much.
Sometimes ignorance is bliss. I kinda wish I were a bit more ignorant on this subject.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:21 am to Tiger Ugly
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I kinda wish I were a bit more ignorant on this subject.
Wish granted. Dale Brown was and is an LSU ambassador and a class act. How many other schools could even consider bringing back an ex for team motivation and spirit?
Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:24 am to Tiger Ugly
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Sometimes ignorance is bliss. I kinda wish I were a bit more ignorant on this subject
I'll back you up on this one. I am not going to sit here and tear the guy down, to be sure, but there is a side of Dale Brown that a lot of people don't know about, and it isn't especially pleasant. The man certainly did more than his fair share for LSU basketball and I admire him for that. To think that he is a total saint would be a stretch.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:29 am to Tiger Ugly
quote:Right.
As an imperfect soul, you're right. It might not be best for me to throw stones
The point obviously isn't who's perfect. Dale isn't/wasn't perfect, nor are most people. Dale certainly had some coaching under-performances. But then, Dean Smith did too ---- many of them.
The point is that in comparing flaws vs reputation, Brown got completely hosed. LSU quietly distanced itself from him, while Brady tarnished his legacy further. Then after 10yrs, it's finally confirmed that the NCAA's Earl investigation was built on a manipulated foundation of horse manure. No apologies or corrections after the fact from the NCAA, and of course none from Williams. Brown was not the only only wronged party in this by a long shot. Another person pathetically screwed was Johnny Jones. His career was ruined.
So again . . . Where's the press? Where's the outrage? Where's the investigative journalism? Seems that if a sportswriter wanted a national story served up on a platter, a comparison of Brown's involvement vs Williams and the NCAA's in the Lester Earl affair couldn't be an easier homerun.
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