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Trading vets
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:18 am
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:18 am
We suck and will suck for at least the next two seasons. Right now, cap space and draft capital are most important. We have -$13M in cap space next season and the focus should be to clear that up without restructuring salaries into 2026 and beyond (need to stop kicking the can). The best way to do that is trade some vets.
Do it Loomis!:
1) Olave - trading him saves $15M next year (puts us in the black). Should be able to get a Day 2 pick
2) Ruiz - will net us at most a 6th rounder but worth alone for potential cap savings (have trading team eat most of the cap)
3) Nathan Sheppard - what does this guy do? Addition by subtraction as the young guys could get some reps. Maybe get a 7th
Don’t want to trade them but makes sense to do so:
1) Kamara - Would probably net us an early day 3 pick but he’ll be well past him prime by the time we become competitive again.
2) Taysom - You know Sean wants to trade for him. Could net us another day 3 pick and some cap savings (have DEN eat most of his contract)
Trading these guys could potentially clear up $30M+ in cap space for next year and allow the Saints to go all in 2026 when they have $150M+ to spend.
Do it Loomis!:
1) Olave - trading him saves $15M next year (puts us in the black). Should be able to get a Day 2 pick
2) Ruiz - will net us at most a 6th rounder but worth alone for potential cap savings (have trading team eat most of the cap)
3) Nathan Sheppard - what does this guy do? Addition by subtraction as the young guys could get some reps. Maybe get a 7th
Don’t want to trade them but makes sense to do so:
1) Kamara - Would probably net us an early day 3 pick but he’ll be well past him prime by the time we become competitive again.
2) Taysom - You know Sean wants to trade for him. Could net us another day 3 pick and some cap savings (have DEN eat most of his contract)
Trading these guys could potentially clear up $30M+ in cap space for next year and allow the Saints to go all in 2026 when they have $150M+ to spend.
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:29 am to yaboidarrell
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2) Ruiz
Trading him is basically a wash, but clears up the 2027 cap. Right now he has an expected cap hit of $14.2M in 2026 & $14.2M in 2027. If they trade him before the trade deadline, his 2026 cap stays around $14.2M, but he's off the books for 2027.
He's a ripe candidate for a post 6/01 trade so they can drop his 2026 cap hit to $4.7M, and have the 2027 cap hit dropped to $9.5M
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3) Nathan Sheppard
Trading him is another wash, but clears up the 2027 cap. Right now he has an expected cap hit of $6.3M in 2026 & $4.4M in 2027. If they trade him before the trade deadline, his 2026 cap hit jumps up to $6.7M, but he's off the books for 2027
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1) Kamara
Drops his 2026 cap hit from $18.6M to $15.2M, and his 2027 cap hit from $8.1M to $0. Definitely worth considering as a business decision, but I do not see them doing this without him requesting it
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2) Taysom
I am not sure how you force a team to take on your prorated bonuses. You already paid them out and used the loopholes to spread it out over future years. IMO, whether they trade him or let him pay out the season, his 2026 cap hit will be stuck at $13.7M. Only option to reduce that number will be to extend him; this would be another "emotional" business decision where I could see them respecting the wishes of the player even if it may not be in the best interests of the franchise' future.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:36 am to Weekend Warrior79
The Saints are in good enough shape cap wise that I dome necessarily consider their cap ramifications of trading any of them. Only thing I care about id draft compensation.
None are bringing you much of anything on return. Maybe Olave brings the highest pick but you create a hole to likely have to fill it with the pick you get so it's what and what. I'd keep Olave.
Kamara is the next best and would definitely have interest from teams this season that have lost their #1 RB option. Still your only likely getting a 5th or 6th for him but I'd given what we've seen from Miller so far and the limited peak we got at Devon Neal.
None are bringing you much of anything on return. Maybe Olave brings the highest pick but you create a hole to likely have to fill it with the pick you get so it's what and what. I'd keep Olave.
Kamara is the next best and would definitely have interest from teams this season that have lost their #1 RB option. Still your only likely getting a 5th or 6th for him but I'd given what we've seen from Miller so far and the limited peak we got at Devon Neal.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:44 am to yaboidarrell
quote:This will drop to about -$4mil with the carry over, and depending on what we do with Taysom we may actually start (barely) in the positive.
-$13M
This isn't meant to argue any point, but just add a little more clarity on where we will stand to start next year.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 10:45 am
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:45 am to yaboidarrell
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but makes sense to do so:
quote:
2) Taysom -
stop.
i hate you.
delete this.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:43 am to Chad504boy
It’s okay. I already hate myself
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:55 am to yaboidarrell
Demario Davis ?
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:10 pm to yaboidarrell
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2) Ruiz - will net us at most a 6th rounder but worth alone for potential cap savings (have trading team eat most of the cap)
Good luck with this, especially the last part.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:51 pm to yaboidarrell
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Trading these guys could potentially clear up $30M+ in cap space for next year and allow the Saints to go all in 2026 when they have $150M+ to spend.
Loomis could have saved over 40 million this past offseason by not re-signing Young and JJ and not signing Cooks and Reid. Should have just took our medicine now, we’d have the same record. And be close to being completely out of the red.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 10/2/25 at 3:32 pm to TIGERSby10
quote:He’ll retire as a Saint.
Demario Davis ?
Posted on 10/2/25 at 3:40 pm to yaboidarrell
How does Loomis force Carr to walk away from his contract.
Then the Saints are still in Salary Cap hell.
Baffling. Where the Saints are headed.
Then the Saints are still in Salary Cap hell.
Baffling. Where the Saints are headed.
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