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These days are gone and will never return in our lifetime.

Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:17 am
Posted by Geekboy
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:17 am


Tip and the Gipper is a political history and character study about the unlikely working relationship—and personal friendship—between Ronald Reagan, a conservative Republican president, and Tip O’Neill, a liberal Democratic Speaker of the House, during the 1980s. The book’s central thesis is that despite sharp ideological conflict, American governance functioned because leaders could disagree fiercely by day and still respect—and even like—each other by night.

What the Book Is About

At its core, the book argues that:
• Reagan and O’Neill represented authentic ideological opposites, not performative ones.
• They fought hard over taxes, spending, Social Security, defense, and the size of government.
• Yet they maintained personal trust, civility, and a shared belief in American institutions.

Chris Matthews uses their relationship to illustrate what he sees as a lost political culture: deal-making grounded in personal respect rather than total war politics. The famous image Matthews returns to repeatedly is that Reagan and O’Neill would spar publicly, then share drinks, jokes, and stories privately—often Irish-Catholic humor on O’Neill’s side and Hollywood optimism on Reagan’s.

The book is also partly autobiographical. Matthews worked for Tip O’Neill, and the narrative often reflects his insider vantage point inside Democratic leadership during the Reagan years.

How Chris Matthews Felt About Reagan

This is where the book is especially interesting for debate purposes.

Despite being a lifelong Democrat and a former O’Neill aide, Chris Matthews is clearly impressed by Reagan—sometimes uncomfortably so for readers expecting partisan hostility.

Matthews’ view of Reagan can be summarized accurately as:

1. He Respected Reagan’s Leadership and Skill

Matthews portrays Reagan as politically formidable:
• Exceptionally disciplined in message
• Intuitively brilliant at communicating values
• Able to frame conservative ideas in moral and emotional terms

Matthews repeatedly concedes that Reagan outmaneuvered Democrats not through policy minutiae but through narrative and conviction.

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2. He Acknowledged Reagan’s Sincerity

Matthews emphasizes that Reagan genuinely believed what he said. He was not cynical, not tactical in the modern sense, and not transactional. Matthews contrasts Reagan’s optimism with what he sees as the technocratic coldness of many Democrats.

This sincerity, Matthews argues, made Reagan trustworthy—even to opponents.

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3. He Disagreed Strongly With Reagan’s Policies

Matthews does not become a Reagan convert:
• He opposed Reaganomics.
• He believed Reagan favored the wealthy.
• He worried about cuts to social programs.

But importantly, Matthews separates policy disagreement from personal legitimacy, something he argues modern politics fails to do.

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4. He Viewed Reagan as a Unifier, Not a Divider

Matthews credits Reagan with understanding the emotional state of the country after Vietnam and Watergate. Reagan’s optimism, in Matthews’ telling, wasn’t superficial—it was strategic and restorative.

He saw Reagan as someone who loved the country and wanted it to feel confident again, even if Democrats believed he was wrong on substance.

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Matthews’ Larger Point

The Reagan–O’Neill relationship is used as evidence that:
• Democracy requires opponents, not enemies
• Politics works when leaders believe the other side is legitimate
• Personal respect enables compromise without ideological surrender

Matthews is blunt that he does not believe today’s political environment would allow a Reagan–O’Neill dynamic to exist.

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Bottom Line

Chris Matthews’ position in Tip and the Gipper is nuanced but clear:
• He admired Reagan the leader
• He respected Reagan the man
• He opposed Reagan the policymaker
• He believed Reagan elevated the presidency and the tone of American politics
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10932 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:29 am to
I think that the Internet and social media are what killed civility. People aren't going to read or listen to a civil conversation about opposing views. It is just boring today. Things don't rise to our awareness unless it is WWE level dramatic conflict.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 6:31 am
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53266 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:31 am to
Its all Kayfabe
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63186 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:32 am to
The sad irony is Chris Matthews in one of those who helped sow the division we currently see today.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 7:17 am
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19323 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:34 am to
The repukes still don't understand, the demonrats are communist liars and you don't make deals with the devil. As el Rushbo so eloquently stated, they must be defeated. Just leave on or two around, in a university or museum, so people are aware of their bad intentions and nature.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23516 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:34 am to
Thanks Obama
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6697 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:38 am to
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Its all Kayfabe


Exactly. These trends never stop: more war, more debt, middle class shrinks, poverty grows, elite get wealthier and more powerful. Doesn't matter who is in office, those things continue. It's theater set by chaos agents who have controlled this country for as long as most of us have been alive. The internet just makes it easier to distract.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21110 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:40 am to
The left moved to the fringe in 2004, the right did not. 90% of Trump is doing WAS the democrats platform until the Obama era. This isn’t a political issue anymore, but rather a moral one, and the left cannot be compromised with.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15162 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:42 am to
Leftists have a smug superiority and believe themselves to be "better" than anyone who isn't as "left" as they are. If you are ideologically opposed to them - they hate you. They would like to see you dead or in jail.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4223 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:56 am to
when i was young, the 2 parties each had a liberal and conservative wing of their parties. back then the south was pretty much run by conservative democrats. as it is now, the democrats are just the far left and the republicans are just to the right of that far left. back in tip oneils days, even if the democrats controled the house, they would need to compromise with their conservative wing to pass legislation. not anymore.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 7:10 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
53420 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:56 am to
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He opposed Reaganomics. • He believed Reagan favored the wealthy.

Reagonomics led to a remerkable increase in the living standards of the working class, yet the knucklehead still believes this.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18948 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:02 am to
Indeed. And Matthew's has become the very rich that he decried so much disdain for. He is the epitome of the hypocritical liberal piece of shite.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
53420 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:03 am to
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These trends never stop: more war, more debt, middle class shrinks, poverty grows, elite get wealthier and more powerful.

The middle class shrinks because more and more of them are becoming wealthy. And poverty DOES NOT increase; it shrinks.
Statista graph showing decline in poverty
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63186 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:19 am to
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Indeed. And Matthew's has become the very rich that he decried so much disdain for. He is the epitome of the hypocritical liberal piece of shite.


Matthews used to be a guest host for Rush Limbaugh until Chrissie went hard Left.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18948 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:20 am to
Yep, sadly I remember.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11369 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:30 am to
Here’s the actual issue

In 1980, the U.S. population was around 226.5 million, predominantly White (about 80%), with Black residents at 11.5%, Hispanic/Latino at 6.5%, and Asian Americans at 1.8%

Compare that to now. The foreign-born population hit a peak of 53.3 million in January 2025 (15.8% of U.S. population)

Whites make up 57-59%
Hispanic/Latino 20%
Black 13%
Asian 7%

We’ve imported the Third World in the last 45 years. So, of course things won’t be the same

Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2253 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:46 am to
were you alive then, if so how old were you, because i can tell you i was a sophomore in college when reagan was elected (i voted for him) and i was a 27 year old stock broker and married when he finished his second term so i remember those years pretty well. i don't remember the whole kumbaya reagan years vibe that chris matthews is misremembering.

i can tell you that no one on planet earth knew who in the he11 chris matthews was before 1992.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28304 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:48 am to
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The sad irony is Chris Matthews in one of those who helped sow the division we currently see today.



Once upon a time Matthews' Hardball was the best political show on tv. He leaned to the left of me but there was no better source for the nuts and bolts of how DC worked. Then Obama came along and Matthews lost his fricking mind.


Also. I tried to find the classic SNL skits with Darrell Hammond playing Matthews but I couldn't find the old ones, just a couple of newer ones that weren't that funny.


Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117035 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:51 am to
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i don't remember the whole kumbaya reagan years vibe that chris matthews is misremembering.

You're correct. Reagan thought Tip O'Neill was a POS. Matthews is lying like he always does.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 9:25 am
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2253 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:58 am to
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Darrell Hammond


wow! i had forgotten he was even alive, talk about falling off the face of the planet.
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