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Shortstopping Ducks over 25 years not 20
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:36 am
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:36 am
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:43 am to CitizenK
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Mallard Harvest down 95%
Is this actually true?
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:48 am to Turnblad85
Hell it was already down in the late 1990's from shortstopping. A friend who had been on the board of directors for DU quit his membership because this.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:04 am to CitizenK
I stopped supporting DU about 10 years ago for this exact reason...tired of seeing the slaughter of mallards in AR/KS/MO while I'm fighting for my life for 3 dos gris.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:11 am to CitizenK
Ive been hearing about shortstopping since the early 70s. See Canada Geese.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:24 am to choupiquesushi
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Ive been hearing about shortstopping since the early 70s. See Canada Geese.
I've seen lesser Canadian but never a greater Canadian in SW LA
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:32 am to CitizenK
Since Deep South hunters are95% down….has this increased the population of ducks overall?
Or are they slaying them at an unreasonable clip up north to where the southern hunters lack of hunting doesn’t matter.
Or are they slaying them at an unreasonable clip up north to where the southern hunters lack of hunting doesn’t matter.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:41 am to dstone12
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Since Deep South hunters are95% down
There used to be two major migrations, an early one regardless of weather and a later one moved down with strong cold front.
Flooding timber and fields with food stopped the early flight.
The last day of the 1998 season there were thousands of mallards in the rest area in the middle of the area I was hunting. It was a low mallard year. Limits for most of the year had to full of bluebills and teal with a few Mexican squealers Squealers are like shooting flying chickens, not a lot of sport in that but good eating if skinned due full of pen feathers
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:57 am to CitizenK
I just wish they would not double down on the “change” in 1998 and “normal agriculture practices”. Stop using this. Nothing hanged in 1998. It was always legal to do what we are doing now
Yes. There is nothing “normal” about flooding unharvested corn. There is also nothing “normal” about putting a levee around bottomland hardwoods and flooding it either
Or flooding harvested rice solely to duck hunt.
Yes. There is nothing “normal” about flooding unharvested corn. There is also nothing “normal” about putting a levee around bottomland hardwoods and flooding it either
Or flooding harvested rice solely to duck hunt.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 9:57 am
Posted on 1/12/26 at 10:13 am to CitizenK
I’ve been a guide since the 80s been hunting since the late 60s. “Short stopping” has been around since then, it just didn’t get the publicity it does now due to social media and “influencers” who think they know what they’re talking about but don’t know shite.
It’s cyclical, been that way forever. Do ag practices affect it? I’m sure, but not to the degree people want to make it out to be.
It’s cyclical, been that way forever. Do ag practices affect it? I’m sure, but not to the degree people want to make it out to be.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 10:55 am to SmoothBox
If Kennedy wants to fight that ethanol mandate that added a few million acres of corn to the landscape I am all for it. Don’t see why we are growing corn to out in my fuel tank
Posted on 1/12/26 at 11:01 am to Ron Cheramie
Need to go to a 30/3 system for a few years. Numbers are horrible everywhere, Canada included.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 11:05 am to Ron Cheramie
Correct. If senator Kennedy wants to do something, he would focus on sugar cane farming and current methods of rice farming in LA. The habitat down here is our biggest problem.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 11:12 am to Motorboat
Foghorn is only going to give us sound bites, zero substance since he has been in DC. He’s a swamp critter.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 11:27 am to SmoothBox
quote:No till farming has cetrainly had a major impact on migration since it started.
Do ag practices affect it? I’m sure, but not to the degree people want to make it out to be.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:27 pm to Motorboat
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Correct. If senator Kennedy wants to do something, he would focus on sugar cane farming and current methods of rice farming in LA. The habitat down here is our biggest problem.
This is exactly right.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 1:37 pm to Motorboat
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The habitat down here is our biggest problem.
No it isn't. and neither is flooded corn
Its poor breeding grounds/ lots of the prairie pot hole region has been drained to farm it, they've had numerous droughts, etc
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he would focus on sugar cane farming and current methods of rice farming in LA
I would love to hear what you want the Senator to do regarding this or what you think the problem is
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 1/12/26 at 2:03 pm to CitizenK
While I applaud the Senator for his finely worded letter, I'm afraid this will be a waste of time IF it's as political as many of my fellow Louisiana duck hunters point out.
I don't feel like the odds of having the law changed are good based on who he will be going up against. I wish him the best of luck however.
I've studied this quite a bit and I've told my story about duck hunting in southern Illinois since 2000. I've pointed out how the habitat in Louisiana has changed, how the climate in the midwest has changed (It was 60 degrees yesterday in Iowa) and how duck hunting has become a corporate monster. With all that said, I would ask two questions...why is Arkansas still the number one state for wintering/migrating Mallards if they're all being short stopped in the midwest? Why do we no longer see Robins here in Louisiana the way we did 40 years ago?
My questions are not meant to be "gotchas", I don't deal in that, especially an issue that I know so little about.
I don't feel like the odds of having the law changed are good based on who he will be going up against. I wish him the best of luck however.
I've studied this quite a bit and I've told my story about duck hunting in southern Illinois since 2000. I've pointed out how the habitat in Louisiana has changed, how the climate in the midwest has changed (It was 60 degrees yesterday in Iowa) and how duck hunting has become a corporate monster. With all that said, I would ask two questions...why is Arkansas still the number one state for wintering/migrating Mallards if they're all being short stopped in the midwest? Why do we no longer see Robins here in Louisiana the way we did 40 years ago?
My questions are not meant to be "gotchas", I don't deal in that, especially an issue that I know so little about.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 2:07 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:
Ive been hearing about shortstopping since the early 70s. See Canada Geese
This!
So when I first began hunting southern Illinois back in 2000, no one duck hunted hardly. Sure, there were a few hardcore guys who hunted the Wabash, Skillet Fork and Little Wabash, waiting for a backwater, but for the most part everyone goose hunted.
By 2010, the geese had quit making it down to us. This combined with more backwaters and warmer climates created a surge in duck hunting in the area. It wasn't long after that the farmers began leaving standing corn and flooding it.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 2:10 pm to choupiquesushi
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No till farming has cetrainly had a major impact on migration since it started
I'm not sure how that works.
In the midwest where no till is the dominant farming practice, when the last grain truck leaves the field, they move on to the next farm, leaving the residue grain and stalks.
In Louisiana when the last grain truck leaves the field, the immediately re hip up the field, covering any residue grain up.
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