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If Jalen Hurts actually had to pass, you are likely going to lose

Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:04 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:04 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:05 pm to
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How, how on 2025 with all available data etc to people blindly just accept a QB being “good” because a team wins?
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:12 pm to
once Kellen Moore committed to Barkley and the run game, it won them a Super Bowl

AJ Brown didn't help matters either
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:16 pm to
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How, how on 2025 with all available data etc to people blindly just accept a QB being “good” because a team wins?


Why do people believe they lost because he threw some arbitrary #of passes ? If they only threw 29 or 28 passes would the result be different? Is holding the Denver game against him any different than crediting him they won?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:16 pm to
They did everything they could this year to try and not pass as well
Posted by suavecito80
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:52 pm to
ELITE game manager.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:14 pm to
You run the ball more when you’re winning. And Jalen has good legs. And Barkley is elite. Jalen is not. It’s a team game.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:40 pm to
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once Kellen Moore committed to Barkley and the run game, it won them a Super Bowl AJ Brown didn't help matters either



I give the eagles defense a great deal of credit for that superbowl win, they dominated the chiefs offense.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
109212 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:49 pm to
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Why do people believe they lost because he threw some arbitrary #of passes ? If they only threw 29 or 28 passes would the result be different? Is holding the Denver game against him any different than crediting him they won?
In games which the eagles defense doesn’t shut another team down, can Jalen keep pace?

That’s the question to ask yourself.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:53 pm to
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In games which the eagles defense doesn’t shut another team down, can Jalen keep pace?


Are we giving the QB credit for team wins or not?

If you have a 14 point lead in the 4th and lose and the QB has no turnovers and 280 yards passing how exactly is it his fault? Don’t think they win if he throws 25 passes instead?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:55 pm to
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If you have a 14 point lead in the 4th and lose and the QB has no turnovers and 280 yards passing how exactly is it his fault? Don’t think they win if he throws 25 passes instead?
Do you think this is Hurts?


When the other team scores over 20 the eagles have a losing record.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 6:56 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:57 pm to
Saban already knew this. Pretty remarkable a guy who was benched in college for not being able to make the throws ended up in a NFL starting role
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:01 pm to
The extreme minority of QBs in the NFL that would make it regardless of where they were drafted

There are 100s of QBs that come through that are completely dependent on who drafts them to determine will they wash out

If hurts for drafted by like 80% of nfl teams he would have washed out. There were very few teams tha he could survive. He happened to be drafted to one
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 7:01 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:05 pm to
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Do you think this is Hurts?


No I know it is because I looked at the box score from the Denver game that was referenced in one of the tweets you posted. It was 17-3 after 3Q, Hurts was 23-38-280-2-0, he also didn’t fumble. Barkley had a whopping 30 yards rushing on 6 att. So was it Hursts fault they couldn’t or didn’t even try to run? Was it his fault the defense gave up 18 in one quarter? Please explain why it’s his fault when they lose but he gets zero credit when they win.

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When the other team scores over 20 the eagles have a losing record.


And what is the record of all other teams when they give up 20? When you cherry pick stats with no context it looks more like an agenda. I would agree he’s not an elite passer, so what? He fits the offense the Eagles run and they’ve been successful with him. Allen wasn’t available form them
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:06 pm to
At first glance, I don’t think this is a massive indictment of Jalen.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:08 pm to
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If hurts for drafted by like 80% of nfl teams he would have washed out. There were very few teams tha he could survive. He happened to be drafted to one
Yep. Jalen Hurts has always benefited from his supporting cast, from Alabama > Oklahoma > Philadelphia.

AJ Brown
Devonte Smith
SaQuon Barkley
Jerry Jeudy
Devonte Smith (mentioned twice, both college and NFL)
Jalen Waddle
Henry Ruggs
CeeDee Lamb
Tre Sermon
Josh Jacobs
Najee Harris
Brian Robinson
Irv Smith Jr
Bo Scarbrough
Calvin Ridley
OJ Howard
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:08 pm to
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Pretty remarkable a guy who was benched in college for not being able to make the throws ended up in a NFL starting role


Part of the reason he transferred to Oklahoma on Saban’s suggestion is to become a better passer, which he did.

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There are 100s of QBs that come through that are completely dependent on who drafts them to determine will they wash out If hurts for drafted by like 80% of nfl teams he would have washed out. There were very few teams tha he could survive. He happened to be drafted to one


I agree with this, though I would add that maybe just maybe that’s why the Eagles drafted him
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 7:09 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:12 pm to
He was very lucky for that.
If there was a very good all around team that was totally willing to scheme around his weaknesses Tim Tebow could’ve been an NFL starter too. He just wasn’t that lucky
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:14 pm to
I’m not at all on the Hurts hype train but you could argue when you’re losing, you’re naturally throwing more passes to try and comeback.

So of course your record would be shitty
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