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Trump orders agencies to stop using Anthropic AI tech

Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:08 pm
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THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL NEVER ALLOW A RADICAL LEFT, WOKE COMPANY TO DICTATE HOW OUR GREAT MILITARY FIGHTS AND WINS WARS! That decision belongs to YOUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, and the tremendous leaders I appoint to run our Military. 
 
The Leftwing nut jobs at Anthropic have made a DISASTROUS MISTAKE trying to STRONG-ARM the Department of War, and force them to obey their Terms of Service instead of our Constitution. Their selfishness is putting AMERICAN LIVES at risk, our Troops in danger, and our National Security in JEOPARDY. 
 
Therefore, I am directing EVERY Federal Agency in the United States Government to IMMEDIATELY CEASE all use of Anthropic’s technology. We don’t need it, we don’t want it, and will not do business with them again! There will be a Six Month phase out period for Agencies like the Department of War who are using Anthropic’s products, at various levels. Anthropic better get their act together, and be helpful during this phase out period, or I will use the Full Power of the Presidency to make them comply, with major civil and criminal consequences to follow.
 
WE will decide the fate of our Country — NOT some out-of-control, Radical Left AI company run by people who have no idea what the real World is all about. Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!


Anthropic listed their concerns yesterday, stating their terms of service wouldn't allow the government to use their technology for mass domestic surveillance or fully autonomous weapons: LINK

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Anthropic understands that the Department of War, not private companies, makes military decisions. We have never raised objections to particular military operations nor attempted to limit use of our technology in an ad hoc manner.

However, in a narrow set of cases, we believe AI can undermine, rather than defend, democratic values. Some uses are also simply outside the bounds of what today’s technology can safely and reliably do. Two such use cases have never been included in our contracts with the Department of War, and we believe they should not be included now:

Mass domestic surveillance. We support the use of AI for lawful foreign intelligence and counterintelligence missions. But using these systems for mass domestic surveillance is incompatible with democratic values. AI-driven mass surveillance presents serious, novel risks to our fundamental liberties. To the extent that such surveillance is currently legal, this is only because the law has not yet caught up with the rapidly growing capabilities of AI. For example, under current law, the government can purchase detailed records of Americans’ movements, web browsing, and associations from public sources without obtaining a warrant, a practice the Intelligence Community has acknowledged raises privacy concerns and that has generated bipartisan opposition in Congress. Powerful AI makes it possible to assemble this scattered, individually innocuous data into a comprehensive picture of any person’s life—automatically and at massive scale.
Fully autonomous weapons. Partially autonomous weapons, like those used today in Ukraine, are vital to the defense of democracy. Even fully autonomous weapons (those that take humans out of the loop entirely and automate selecting and engaging targets) may prove critical for our national defense. But today, frontier AI systems are simply not reliable enough to power fully autonomous weapons. We will not knowingly provide a product that puts America’s warfighters and civilians at risk. We have offered to work directly with the Department of War on R&D to improve the reliability of these systems, but they have not accepted this offer. In addition, without proper oversight, fully autonomous weapons cannot be relied upon to exercise the critical judgment that our highly trained, professional troops exhibit every day. They need to be deployed with proper guardrails, which don’t exist today.
To our knowledge, these two exceptions have not been a barrier to accelerating the adoption and use of our models within our armed forces to date.

The Department of War has stated they will only contract with AI companies who accede to “any lawful use” and remove safeguards in the cases mentioned above. They have threatened to remove us from their systems if we maintain these safeguards; they have also threatened to designate us a “supply chain risk”—a label reserved for US adversaries, never before applied to an American company—and to invoke the Defense Production Act to force the safeguards’ removal. These latter two threats are inherently contradictory: one labels us a security risk; the other labels Claude as essential to national security.

Regardless, these threats do not change our position: we cannot in good conscience accede to their request.
Posted by uggabugga
Member since Aug 2024
3897 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:10 pm to
Interesting. Isn't there already a s*** ton of money wrapped up in this?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140235 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:14 pm to
Anthropic should have said yes to the DoW but sabotage the LLM code that is delivered to them. Something to the effect that releases top secret info a few months after delivery and after it happens just declare ignorance.
Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
469 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:15 pm to
No bueno. We can assume whoever the next AI company is will be open to mass surveillance..
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140235 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:17 pm to
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We can assume whoever the next AI company is will be open to mass surveillance..


Don't we already have mass surveillance? I thought the NSA captures all internet activity?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22395 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:17 pm to
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“The president’s directive to halt the use of a leading American A.I. company across the federal government, combined with inflammatory rhetoric attacking that company, raises serious concerns about whether national security decisions are being driven by careful analysis or political considerations,” Mr. Warner said.
seriously fuc these assholes im not going to be gaslit in believeing our military needs fricking Ai based in SF.
Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
469 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:18 pm to
I'm sure we do. This would just be next level via AI. Not sure what that looks like but I don't really want to find out.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140235 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:20 pm to
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I'm sure we do. This would just be next level via AI. Not sure what that looks like but I don't really want to find out.


I guess NSA captures the data and AI systems like Anthropic are used to cull through it.

Back in the old days you needed FISA 702 authorizations for that.
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
476 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:21 pm to
Good on Anthropic for not caving in.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87818 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:23 pm to
So this guy did support Harris.

And he’s afraid of authoritarians getting a hold of this and that China is a threat in that regard.

But he also believes we need to have a sort of AI coalition with other Democracies and give some of the not well off ones the technology.


But in theory couldn’t anyone in power in these “democracies” become authoritarian?


Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3661 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:24 pm to
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No bueno. We can assume whoever the next AI company is will be open to mass surveillance..


Yeah, I asked to believe that Trump is one of us and a good guy. He’s just like a runner of the mill republican just with a loud mouth.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67240 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:25 pm to
I mean I see where both parties are coming from on this issue. Why is this so controversial or adversarial? I'm in the US government's corner on the "mass surveilance" and in Anthropic's corner on autonomous weapons.

As long as Anthropic holds fast to not allowing anyone to breach the terms, then it shouldn't be an issue.
Posted by Augustus516
Member since Oct 2024
402 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:26 pm to
For anyone paying attention, this is and should be the biggest news concerning government overreach in a long time.

This administration has already played kingmaker with Intel and other major companies by investing in them.

To force a private company to release guardrails on its product…based on a liberal AND conservative consensus interpretation of the constitution is unreal.
Posted by SNAP
Member since Nov 2025
242 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:26 pm to
Catherine Austin Fitts was on with Tucker today. She discussed the "control grid" coming into place, which AI is a big part of. Going after Anthropic is really just a distraction. Trump is betraying all of us right now. I know that's not popular to hear, but it's true. She has a group that monitors the growth of this control grid. There are three general components - hardware (cameras and so forth), programmable money, digital ID.

You get the hardware in place like cameras, data centers, cell towers, etc. Now you can track all sorts of stuff, follow phones, follow purchases, movements and so on. Anything that can be expressed mathematically like your location, purchases, is what AI and super computing (data centers) will be used for.
You nudge people toward centralized currency, restrict cash. Eventually this leads to tracking money in real time and then you can't spend money on your fancy card / chip thing if you go too far from your 15-minute smart city, or if the system decides you bought too many Red Bulls this month.
You add digital ID (which is already in place by proxy as they track your phone for example) and now everything immediately snaps together. You are now controlled.

This grid has been growing (mostly hardware side) especially with things like AI usage, data centers and so forth. This growth has a very steep trajectory since Trump took office again. He should be putting a halt to this but he's facilitating this. I know people don't want to hear this, but Trump is facilitating the subjugation of society by the elites and government.

This video is worth the time to watch. She discusses a lot of the schemes in play that rip us off, the cycling of money withing politics, scam of privatized prisons, and more.

Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22395 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:27 pm to
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As long as Anthropic holds fast to not allowing anyone to breach the terms, then it shouldn't be an issue.
FOR frick SAKE! HOW DO WE KNOW THIS WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY!
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1483 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:31 pm to
Right or wrong, Tuck fricker Carlson
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5947 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:36 pm to
Its already illegal if the Department of War used the technology for mass surveillance of Americans.

A private company has no business putting "safeguards" into products its sells for our national defense. They are not the military. You dont see Lockheed Martin saying we cant fly our planes over Iran without their approval
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27323 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:36 pm to
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Mass domestic surveillance. We support the use of AI for lawful foreign intelligence and counterintelligence missions. But using these systems for mass domestic surveillance is incompatible with democratic values. AI-driven mass surveillance presents serious, novel risks to our fundamental liberties. To the extent that such surveillance is currently legal, this is only because the law has not yet caught up with the rapidly growing capabilities of AI. For example, under current law, the government can purchase detailed records of Americans’ movements, web browsing, and associations from public sources without obtaining a warrant, a practice the Intelligence Community has acknowledged raises privacy concerns and that has generated bipartisan opposition in Congress. Powerful AI makes it possible to assemble this scattered, individually innocuous data into a comprehensive picture of any person’s life—automatically and at massive scale.


If Anthropic is serious about this kudos to them. One of my biggest reservations about JD Vance is his mentor being Peter Thiel and Peter Thiel being a Palantir guy. I hope Anthropic keeps that same ideal when someone else comes into power that may more closely align with some of their decision makers' political ideology.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67240 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:38 pm to
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To force a private company to release guardrails on its product…based on a liberal AND conservative consensus interpretation of the constitution is unreal.


What? No one is being forced to do anything. The US government wants full control, Anthropic refused, each side is going their separate ways.

You people need to start reading the actual statements and not the one sentence headlines from news organizations.
Posted by Augustus516
Member since Oct 2024
402 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:49 pm to
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What? No one is being forced to do anything. The US government wants full control, Anthropic refused, each side is going their separate ways.


Well here is what i read:

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and to invoke the Defense Production Act to force the safeguards’ removal.


Open to interpretation I suppose

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