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People have asked "where are all the Les Miles haters?"
Posted on 11/20/11 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/20/11 at 1:38 pm
They are here. They have never left. Kudos to those of you who have admitted being 'skeptical' of Les, to say the least, in the past.
But the die-hards, the ones who still hope that there is some how, some way, Les can find a way to fail and LSU still win out, they are the ones expressing 'outrage' over JLee and his supposed 'mistreament'.
Jarret Lee will not, I repeat WILL NOT start another game for LSU, and it will be the best thing for the team. Someone get those 'deal with it' shades in here.
But the die-hards, the ones who still hope that there is some how, some way, Les can find a way to fail and LSU still win out, they are the ones expressing 'outrage' over JLee and his supposed 'mistreament'.
Jarret Lee will not, I repeat WILL NOT start another game for LSU, and it will be the best thing for the team. Someone get those 'deal with it' shades in here.
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Posted on 11/20/11 at 1:47 pm to EthanL
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People have asked "where are all the Les Miles haters?"
They will show back up as soon as we lose a game..
Book it.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 1:47 pm to EthanL
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Les can find a way to fail and LSU still win out, they are the ones expressing 'outrage' over JLee and his supposed 'mistreament'.
if true, these guys are assholes and not LSU fans at all. however, just how do you know these are the same people and can you back up your allegation with any proof?
Posted on 11/20/11 at 1:48 pm to EthanL
Count me as a skeptical one.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 1:54 pm to LSU GrandDad
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however, just how do you know these are the same people and can you back up your allegation with any proof?
Because we are winning games and people are still complaining! Think about it, if this were strictly a 'team JJ versus team JLee' thing, it would be like this:
I am a JJ supporter, for example. When he got in trouble, I said, "if this is true he should be kicked off team, game over him." That was not the case, he was actually vindicated, and not guilty of anything but violating curfew, still stupid. But he missed several games vindicating himself, and during that time, I wanted nothing more than JLee to succeed! People supporting JLee don't want JJ to succeed! he is doing well, and they are still mad at JLee! I think these pople were furious when he was taken out of the Bama game, even though he threw 2 ints and was clearly rattled. JJ came in, we won, and they still did not like how it went down.
These have to be the people that still hate les Miles, and want him to fail, because it is no longer about QB success, which JJ is having, its about coaches decisions on who to play.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 1:58 pm to EthanL
Lsu fans bitch about everything.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:05 pm to EthanL
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People supporting JLee don't want JJ to succeed! he is doing well, and they are still mad at JLee! I think these pople were furious when he was taken out of the Bama game, even though he threw 2 ints and was clearly rattled. JJ came in, we won, and they still did not like how it went down.
Not true. It's not that I don't want JJ to succeed. I'm just skeptical of his ability to succeed. I'm willing to be proven wrong unlike other people on this site.
Let's not kid ourselves. Defense won the game against Bama. Changing QB's in that game was a decision I supported simply because more interceptions would have severely hurt LSU's chances to win. It's not to say Lee could not have led a comeback. We'll never know.
Then JJ has put up good numbers against WKU and Ole Miss. JJ struggled early against WKU and torched Ole Miss. It's not all roses by a long shot. If JJ can manage the game well against Arky and torch that defense, I'll eat crow.
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These have to be the people that still hate les Miles, and want him to fail, because it is no longer about QB success, which JJ is having, its about coaches decisions on who to play.
Again, this is not true. I don't hate Les Miles. Am I skeptical? Sure. Being 11-0 won't win you a championship because there are still more games to play. Some fans here assume all is roses and everything is locked up. It's not. I don't want the team to fail, but you can bet I'm skeptical.
This post was edited on 11/20/11 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:06 pm to EthanL
good points Ethan. 
I'm a "mad hatter" believer
I'm a "mad hatter" believer
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:14 pm to EthanL
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Jarret Lee will not, I repeat WILL NOT start another game for LSU
That's ashame for a kid that stuck it out and was more loyal to his coach and program than most would have been. After EARNING the right to start on the field, he is being benched for guy that has, to say the least, struggled over his 4 year career to consistently move the football. What's even worse is that everyone is saying the last two games are jusitifaction. Lee earned his time against the likes of Oregon, W. Va., Florida and Auburn. Jefferson has had two good game against Western Kentucky and Ole Miss (on a 13 game conference losing streak). It is really comparing apples and oranges.
In order to beat Arkansas, UGA and whoever we may play in NOLA, we are going to have to be able to throw the ball over the middle of the field. Jefferson completing eight passes on roll out, two receiver pass plays does not show that he has improved or earned anything. If we are going to win three more games, we are going to need Lee to be able to show up and throw the ball at some point in the game.
I'm not denying we will probably also need Jefferson at times to move the ball on the ground, but if you think Jefferson can effciently run this offense against a quality oppenent, you are mistaken.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:20 pm to Purple N Gold Blood
I'm not a Miles fan at all. I think he is a mediocre coach who had one of the best gigs in college football fall in his lap. The ugliest part of the team since Miles has been here has been the offense, which is the part of the team Miles runs. This team wins games every year because of defense, which has been run by greats like Pellini and Chavis, and which Miles has nothing to do with. The fact is, this team is at it's best when Miles doesn't have to make any decisions and he has co-ordinators running the team. Miles has one really great quality as a head coach, players love him, and at LSU, that might be all he needs as long as he has guys like Chavis doing the real work.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:24 pm to EthanL
Yes you're doing a lot of assuming
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:29 pm to EthanL
The Miles haters are the ones complaining about kneeling the ball or having JJ start. They have just changed their tune from Miles is a crappy coach who can't win to knitpicking
This post was edited on 11/20/11 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:31 pm to Lacour
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Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:35 pm to landrywasbeast30
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I'm not a Miles fan at all. I think he is a mediocre coach who had one of the best gigs in college football fall in his lap. The ugliest part of the team since Miles has been here has been the offense, which is the part of the team Miles runs. This team wins games every year because of defense, which has been run by greats like Pellini and Chavis, and which Miles has nothing to do with. The fact is, this team is at it's best when Miles doesn't have to make any decisions and he has co-ordinators running the team. Miles has one really great quality as a head coach, players love him, and at LSU, that might be all he needs as long as he has guys like Chavis doing the real work.
You could have saved us some reading and just said.. "I'm an a-hole".
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:36 pm to Deathrider
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Then JJ has put up good numbers against WKU and Ole Miss. JJ struggled early against WKU and torched Ole Miss. It's not all roses by a long shot.
Well... Devils Advocate here... not all of JLs games were "rosey" or against awesome teams either.
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I'm willing to be proven wrong unlike other people on this site.
IMO opinion, JJ has done as much as JL to prove haters wrong, yet people still aren't ready to admit they are wrong... whereas JL doubters have admitted he's doing well.
I don't know what this means... guess JJ doubters have more hate than JL doubters. ???
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:39 pm to Geaux Tahel
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Well... Devils Advocate here... not all of JLs games were "rosey" or against awesome teams either.
That's actually very true. Defenses dropped what should have been interceptions against LSU, but they couldn't make a play.
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IMO opinion, JJ has done as much as JL to prove haters wrong, yet people still aren't ready to admit they are wrong... whereas JL doubters have admitted he's doing well.
My conditions are seeing what JJ will do against Arky. I do give him credit for managing the offense against Bama.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:39 pm to landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:44 pm to landrywasbeast30
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I'm not a Miles fan at all. I think he is a mediocre coach who had one of the best gigs in college football fall in his lap. The ugliest part of the team since Miles has been here has been the offense, which is the part of the team Miles runs. This team wins games every year because of defense, which has been run by greats like Pellini and Chavis, and which Miles has nothing to do with. The fact is, this team is at it's best when Miles doesn't have to make any decisions and he has co-ordinators running the team. Miles has one really great quality as a head coach, players love him, and at LSU, that might be all he needs as long as he has guys like Chavis doing the real work
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:45 pm to footwedge
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Lsu fans bitch about everything.
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