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Grantland on LBJ v AD
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:40 am
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:40 am
Charlie Pierce was there and wrote about the present and the future of the NBA
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There is no flash to the 21-year-old Anthony Davis. Not yet, anyway. There is great talent, but there also is a profound steadiness that amounts almost to elegance, and a patience that makes a liar out of his age. He had 27 points and 14 rebounds against the Cavaliers, and you nearly didn’t notice him at all. Two days earlier, in San Antonio, Davis had hit a layup to beat the Spurs and cap a 27-point, 11-rebound performance against the defending NBA champions. Then, he came into the event that is LeBron James, and he was remorselessly efficient in his play. His head remained so level, you could bowl on it.
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So, in addition to being a very good basketball game, this contest had to mean something beyond that, something about the generations passing each other. This is not fair to either man. LeBron James has not yet lost a step. He’s just husbanding them better. In his own way, he demonstrates the value of patience as much as Anthony Davis does. On Monday night, James was 1-for-4 with three points in the first quarter, but you could see him sizing up the flow of the game, easing into it, and then uncoiling, possession by possession, all the way to the end. Meanwhile, Davis was quietly piling up points and rebounds in his unhurried, economical way, and the generations stopped for a moment in their passing, and they existed in the same space, the same time, and in the same steady rhythm
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:57 am to corndeaux
AD asserted himself in the first quarter, till he took a step back because ryno turned into a flamethrower. That's why he went unnoticed.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:01 am to corndeaux
I love AD's quiet, dominating presence. No over the top showmanship or chalk throwing.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 11:02 am
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:44 pm to chesty
A lot like duncan imo
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:47 pm to LosLobos111
Very similar to Duncan.
AD year 3:
25/13/2
52/0/81 shooting
1.2 TOV
2.5 STL
4.2 BLK
125 ortg
95 drtg
35.7 PER
26.3 USG%
8.6 VORP
TD year 3:
23/12/3
49/9/76 shooting
3.3 TOV
0.9 STL
2.2 BLK
109 ortg
95 drtg
24.8 PER
28.7 USG%
5.6 VORP
AD year 3:
25/13/2
52/0/81 shooting
1.2 TOV
2.5 STL
4.2 BLK
125 ortg
95 drtg
35.7 PER
26.3 USG%
8.6 VORP
TD year 3:
23/12/3
49/9/76 shooting
3.3 TOV
0.9 STL
2.2 BLK
109 ortg
95 drtg
24.8 PER
28.7 USG%
5.6 VORP
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:49 pm to LosLobos111
AD is way more athletic than Duncan. He has the fundamentals down like Duncan, but he is capable of adding a some flair to get the fans out of their seats. Duncan doesn't possess that. In addition to transforming a team as for as wins, AD has the potential to be a box office NBA attraction.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:51 pm to htran90
Another thing to consider is that Duncan stayed all the way through college while AD left after his freshman year.
So while they are both in year 3, Duncan was several years older.
So while they are both in year 3, Duncan was several years older.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:55 pm to NoOmega18
But Duncan is a bigger inside presence
Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:00 pm to Mr.Perfect
Yes Duncan is a bigger presence on the inside.
However, Duncan was the best player in the league for some years, but he never was the star of the league (see Shaq, Kobe, and LeBron). AD has the potential to be the best player and be the star of the league because his game is casual fan friendly. He can achieve this right in lovely New Orleans. This is a great time to be a Pelican fan.
However, Duncan was the best player in the league for some years, but he never was the star of the league (see Shaq, Kobe, and LeBron). AD has the potential to be the best player and be the star of the league because his game is casual fan friendly. He can achieve this right in lovely New Orleans. This is a great time to be a Pelican fan.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:08 pm to NoOmega18
Also one played next to the Admiral for three years, while the other played next to a bunch of nobodies and now the Turkish Greg Ostertag.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:01 pm to corndeaux
quote:
There is no flash to the 21-year-old Anthony Davis. Not yet, anyway. There is great talent, but there also is a profound steadiness that amounts almost to elegance, and a patience that makes a liar out of his age. He had 27 points and 14 rebounds against the Cavaliers, and you nearly didn’t notice him at all
i, too, love to make swooping generalizations based on one game.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:36 pm to quail man
I don't know. I don't think he's wrong and I don't think it's meant as a slight at all. If anything it speaks to how otherworldly he is and the fact that the Pelicans go large chunks of time not even looking for him on offense.
Edit: aren't too many dude sharper than Voulgaris when it comes to the NBA
Edit: aren't too many dude sharper than Voulgaris when it comes to the NBA
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Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob) tweeted at 7:40 PM on Mon, Nov 10, 2014:
I’d love to see A. Davis play with a great passing pg. His guards habitually ignore him on rolls to the basket for oops.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:47 pm to corndeaux
Bring on Mr. Anal: Rajon Rondo!
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:49 pm to corndeaux
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I don't think he's wrong and I don't think it's meant as a slight at all
definitely didn't take it as a slight. i think the comparison to duncan is pretty spot on. he's a quiet great. but i think there will be a great bit of flash involved as well (e.g., his steal, run the court, dunk from the 3 point line that we see every few nights).
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the fact that the Pelicans go large chunks of time not even looking for him on offense.
i'm not sure how much this is monty wanting to get others involved or what, but AD needs to touch the ball on every possession. I saw very few times last night when the ball didn't go through LeBron's hands, but I can't even count the number of times it happens to AD each half.
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quote:
Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob) tweeted at 7:40 PM on Mon, Nov 10, 2014:
I’d love to see A. Davis play with a great passing pg. His guards habitually ignore him on rolls to the basket for oops.
i wish CP3 had come back when AD got drafted here. that duo would be
worthy. Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:52 pm to quail man
Maybe in 2018, he'll come back and saying it was a nice extended college life away from home
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:58 pm to htran90
i don't think i'd want him then. he'll be 33. and he will cost too much.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:59 pm to quail man
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i don't think i'd want him then. he'll be 33. and he will cost too much.
I was being sarcastic
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:30 pm to corndeaux
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This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 2:20 am to LosLobos111
I like the duncan comparison because of the way he dominates behind the scenes. While at same time be able to over the whole game when the moment is necessary. That's how I interpet the Duncan comparison. although he can take that ceiling and push it to an even higher level with his athleticism, guard skills, and off court charisma.
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