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Trump reportedly considering shipping McMaster to Goathumpistan

Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:22 am
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:22 am
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President Trump is looking at shifting CIA Director Mike Pompeo to the White House as national security adviser, according to a report Wednesday evening.

The move would bump H.R. McMaster, the current national security adviser. McMaster, a three-star Army general, would in turn be sent to Afghanistan to command U.S. forces in that country, the New York Times reported, citing several unnamed administration officials. The move could help McMaster earn his fourth star.




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Trump has reportedly expressed frustration with Gen. John Nicholson Jr., the top U.S. general in Afghanistan, because the U.S. and its allies are not "winning" the war there.

The White House shuffle, if it came to pass, would be the latest in a string of staffing changes, including the exit of Reince Priebus as chief of staff. He was replaced by John Kelly, a retired general who had been serving as secretary of homeland security.





Never been a McMaster fan.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:23 am to
I hate MacMasters too but we need to get out of Afghanistan period
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:25 am to
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Never been a McMaster fan
This
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:25 am to
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we need to get out of Afghanistan period


If we fought a war to win, instead of a war to "build a country" - then we'd already be out of Afghanistan.

Kill all they send. Eventually, they will stop coming.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:28 am to
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If we fought a war to win, instead of a war to "build a country" - then we'd already be out of Afghanistan.

This is the only correct response
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:29 am to
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If we fought a war to win, instead of a war to "build a country" - then we'd already be out of Afghanistan.



We aren't in Afghanistan to "win"

We are there to steal their resources to fuel the CIA's poppy supply so they can continue to operate the world's largest drug running business.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:31 am to
The fact that he's firing all the Trump loyalists in the NSA while retaining all of the Obama holdovers, along with leaking damaging info to McCabe in the FBI, tells me all I need to know about him. He needs to be gone with a quickness.
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:34 am to
We never should have gone in there to start with. We had a chance to finish the whole thing right after 9-11 and didn't have the guts.

Our homeland had just been attacked in an attempted decapitation strike. They hit our financial center, the Pentagon and only the brave sacrifices made over Pennsylvania prevented a strike on the White House itself.

We would have been justified in any response and no one would have dared said a word. You can never win a ground war in Afghanistan. The British Empire couldn't do it. The Red Army couldn't do it. What we should have done is launch tactical nuclear strikes against the camps and blown Tora Bora to Hell where it belongs. Let the Taliban run the place who gives a damn?

The message would have been sent. The gloves are off. This and a series of assassinations targeting those who were in the shadows and the goatherders would have gotten the message. You can't wage jihad against Mr. Kiloton.

No Second Iraq War. No Iran out there raising hell all over the place. No Afghan bog. The world would have been a much better place.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 7:42 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:38 am to
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We never should have gone in there to start with.

ehhhhh

Iraq? yes

Afghanistan? we had a legit reason to invade post-911

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What we should have done is launch tactical nuclear strikes

Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26307 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:41 am to
Yes nuke em. We could have done it right then. No troops , just nukes. We would have been respected, and FEARED. Those people understand brute force.

Saddam would have reined it in after seeing that. No Second Gulf War.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 7:43 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:41 am to
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If we fought a war to win, instead of a war to "build a country" - then we'd already be out of Afghanistan.


Word.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:45 am to
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What we should have done is launch tactical nuclear strikes against the camps and blown Tora Bora to Hell where it belongs. Let the Taliban run the place who gives a damn?


I would have gone one more - I would have given the Taliban an ultimatum. "Give us Bin Laden in 72 hours or else."

"Or else what?" "Well, give us Bin Laden OR evacuate Kabul in 72 hours. Let's put it like that."

And then follow through with it. You would have had tyrants all over the world turning in terrorists - or folks they just think might be terrorists with bad intentions against the U.S.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:51 am to
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The fact that he's firing all the Trump loyalists in the NSA while retaining all of the Obama holdovers, along with leaking damaging info to McCabe in the FBI, tells me all I need to know about him. He needs to be gone with a quickness.


This. There are so MANY Intel Community personnel that have dirtied themselves (criminally, in a lot of instances) with the Obama Administration, that they must circle the wagons up there or the whole damn Security Mechanism goes down. Kinda like the Catholic Church trying to cover for pedos so that the Church (their cred/power) don't get whacked.

This is why Meuller is given the unbridled mandate to find SOME kind of *criminal* behavior on Trump/His People...so that Hillary, Lynch, Comey, Obama, Powers, Rice, ad infinitm...can be mitigated (I.e., given a criminal pass) for a 'pass' to Trump.

The Left will demand Resignation or Impeachment at the least per Meuller's *incriminating evidence*, and use this as a justification for Obama's "wiretapping" politicization of the Intel Community.

Bottom line. It is either Trump...or the High Ups and Intel Community of the Obama Administration. There is your Muh Russians Special Prosecutor *Investigation* in a nutshell. CYA for corrupt Politicos from the top on down; James Comey and His 'Book' publically indicting Trump at the fore.

If Trump won't go quietly - given all his successful Policy - and takes this case to Trump Nation via Rallys, Twitter, Speeches, etc.,...hell breaks loose.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:54 am to
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What we should have done is launch tactical nuclear strikes against the camps and blown Tora Bora to Hell where it belongs.


Terrible idea.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 7:55 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:55 am to
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If we fought a war to win, instead of a war to "build a country" - then we'd already be out of Afghanistan.



I thought this was true before I spent a year in Afghanistan, I dont believe that anymore.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21632 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:56 am to
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I hate MacMasters too but we need to get out of Afghanistan period


Trump has already started the discussion about giving up on afghanistan. I think it happens during his first term.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41315 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:57 am to
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We aren't in Afghanistan to "win"

19 of the 20 hijackers were Saudi's and it was business as usual with them. Any invasion of Afghanistan should have been limited to finding and capturing those involved in planning and executing 9-11. Instead we decided to involve ourselves in a conflict between Islamists and opium warlords and 16 years later we're still there. I don't see how anyone can justify us still being there.
Posted by BamaFan365
Member since Sep 2011
2376 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:57 am to
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Kill all they send. Eventually, they will stop coming.


Hard to disagree with that
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:59 am to
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Or else what?" "Well, give us Bin Laden OR evacuate Kabul in 72 hours. Let's put it like that."



The Taliban would thank you for wiping out their enemies.

Go do a year over there before you get out and check back in.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
469959 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:00 am to
i just don't think it's possible. terrible terrain and an area ruled by local warlords

why we should have never gotten involved in Libya
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