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Rule Check: England PK penalty

Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:56 pm
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:56 pm
I am watching the replay of the game today because I was at work.

On the Saurbrunn penalty, does it matter if the player was WAY offsides on the play? Seems the rule would allow for that. If there was no foul and White scored the goal she would have been offsides right?

Why award a PK and issue the yellow if the goal would have been disallowed?

Anyone have a clip of that offsides line?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:03 pm to
She was onside. No fewer than 2 players were keeping her onside (maybe 3).

The LB and LCB definitely kept her on.
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20146 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:25 pm to
i see what you mean. when the switch pass happened from the center to the left side of the box she was offsides. however, she slowed down and was behind the player who passed to her; with that touch, she was played onside, and there were also defenders who dropped deeper than her position at that point. had she interfered with anything prior to that pass to her, she would have been considered offsides.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4385 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:37 pm to
She was onside after the pass, but that was not a penalty.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

but that was not a penalty.
Huh? The defender ran through her shooting leg as she was taking the shot. How was that not a penalty?
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:43 pm to
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, but that was not a penalty.


Why not? Contact was made. It seemed odd that the England player would whiff an easy put away like that. There’s no reason to flop either.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:43 pm to
First time we’ve ever agreed
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:46 pm to
I found a screenshot...
I guess the angle I saw on TV only showed the 3 defenders.
I couldn’t see the defender on the pass that kept her onside. Very close.

This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 6:13 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:49 pm to
One defender kept the player on the final pass onside (the defender that was challenging the passer), but that doesn't matter since she was behind the ball.
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 9:51 pm
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 9:58 pm to
Back to the original question:

If she had been offsides and was fouled from behind like this before the offsides touch is it still a penalty? Or can the ref “assume” the offsides?
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9216 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Back to the original question:

If she had been offsides and was fouled from behind like this before the offsides touch is it still a penalty? Or can the ref “assume” the offsides?





If she had been offside, there would be no penalty regardless of whether she was fouled or not.
They would have also no given Sauerbraun the yellow card.

This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 10:13 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:19 pm to
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They would have also no given Sauerbraun the yellow card.

They wouldn't have given her one on that play, but (since we're talking about hypotheticals) they can still give a card for fouling an offside player depending on what the defender did.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4385 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 11:39 pm to
I'd say her back-kick is what initiated the contact with the defender.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 5:45 am to
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I'd say her back-kick is what initiated the contact with the defender

Not at all.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 6:19 am to
Yeah, I was team no pen on first glance, but after watching the replay, it's 100% a pen...

Live it looked like a terrible (like yellow card terrible) dive, but this is what VAR is for, because subtle little contact like that can be missed and have MASSIVE impacts on a match (granted not in this case because the PK taker shite the bed)
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176333 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:51 am to
quote:

I found a screenshot...
I guess the angle I saw on TV only showed the 3 defenders.
I couldn’t see the defender on the pass that kept her onside. Very close.

quote:



Dude you can't be offside when you're behind the ball. There didn't have to be any defenders down there if the ball is passed back to her like it is here.
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