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I thought the point of lockdowns until the vaccine was developed was to keep granny alive
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:50 am
Almost 66% of doses administered in Chicago have gone to individuals between the ages of 18-39.
Chicago doin' Chicago things.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 9:51 am
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Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:51 am to ClampClampington
If it saves one gang member.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:52 am to ClampClampington
I thought they were giving it to healthcare workers first? This age range would fall in to those who have been made to work COVID-19 units.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:52 am to PiscesTiger
Lol
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:53 am to ClampClampington
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Almost 66% of doses administered in Chicago have gone to individuals between the ages of 18-39.
Chicago doin' Chicago things.
You mean ‘Merica doing ‘Merica things?
Pretty sure that’s provably the average age of healthcare workers. We’re doing similar in Kentucky.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 9:54 am
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:54 am to ClampClampington
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:54 am to BeerMoney
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I thought they were giving it to healthcare workers first? This age range would fall in to those who have been made to work COVID-19 units
They are and then old people and "essential workers" who will likely also be youngish.
The argument could be made we are delaying vaccinating the people who need it the most.
Hopefully supplies are distributed in such large numbers the delay won't be long.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:56 am to ClampClampington
Got to get those vaccines to those prisoners first, too.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:56 am to BluegrassBelle
Yes, realize that. My point is we damn near shut down the whole country to prevent COVID deaths. Now we have a vaccine but aren't vaccinating the most vulnerable population first? The ones that are actually dying and adversely suffering from this illness?
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:56 am to ClampClampington
Some states are actually giving priority to prisoners ahead of nursing home residents. You can't make this stuff up.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:58 am to ClampClampington
They’re in the next phase here. I don’t have an issue with knocking out healthcare workers first though. Considering they regularly face higher viral loads and treat the most vulnerable.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:59 am to ClampClampington
Nah, one of the main Democrats that purposely killed thousands in nursing homes is getting an award...
Posted on 12/27/20 at 9:59 am to ClampClampington
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Yes, realize that. My point is we damn near shut down the whole country to prevent COVID deaths. Now we have a vaccine but aren't vaccinating the most vulnerable population first? The ones that are actually dying and adversely suffering from this illness?
It's a fair point that should be discussed but many people are just accepting their logic. Same as everything else during this whole ordeal.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/27/20 at 10:00 am to ClampClampington
quote:And also to avoid over running hospitals. With that as an additional reason for the shutdowns, it kind of defeats your attempt at a gotcha.
My point is we damn near shut down the whole country to prevent COVID deaths.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 10:01 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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The argument could be made we are delaying vaccinating the people who need it the most.
On the flip side, there is a pretty convincing argument that vaccinating the elderly first delays the serious effects of the pandemic. The elderly are typically the last group in the transmission chain. Using the first line of vaccinations on them keeps most of the transmission chain in tact and increases the time of the pandemic.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 10:03 am to ClampClampington
If they wanted to
there wouldn't have been any nursing home orders.
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keep granny alive
there wouldn't have been any nursing home orders.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 10:04 am to Antonio Moss
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On the flip side, there is a pretty convincing argument that vaccinating the elderly first delays the serious effects of the pandemic. The elderly are typically the last group in the transmission chain. Using the first line of vaccinations on them keeps most of the transmission chain in tact and increases the time of the pandemic.
Fair enough.
Do you think it would be faster to vaccinate the elderly first than the large amount of transmission vectors?
Seems to me one group is far larger than the other and our supplies are extremely limited.
My main gripe is "essential workers" which is a term that doesn't mean much and can be gamed which delays vaccine for the most vulnerable.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 10:06 am
Posted on 12/27/20 at 10:08 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Do you think it would be faster to vaccinate the elderly first than the large amount of transmission vectors?
Seems to me one group is far larger than the other.
Yes, when you look at just the groups in a bubble but when you think of it as a series of infections, it makes sense.
If there are ten people in a transmission chain with 1 being patient zero and 10 being granny, vaccinating #3 will prevent 70% of the infections including granny. But vaccinating Granny will only prevent 10% of the infections.
Posted on 12/27/20 at 10:08 am to Teddy Ruxpin
You could argue that health care workers have the highest chance of exposure and giving it to them first would reduce an obvious source of spread.
Then again, you could also argue that a huge percentage of healthcare workers have already had it.
Easy to make arguments on both sides.
Then again, you could also argue that a huge percentage of healthcare workers have already had it.
Easy to make arguments on both sides.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 10:17 am
Posted on 12/27/20 at 10:21 am to ClampClampington
I've been thinking thia for a while, it makes more sense to target those with a greater chance of fatality. I get why healthcare workers should be priority, but target their patients they're seeing more of and you'll reduce the risk to healthcare workers.
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These estimates are from Israel, but striking: vaccinate the 0.5% of people over 90, and total fatality risk drops 19%. Vaccinate the 2.5% over 80, and it falls by half. Vaccinate the 7.5% over 70, and it drops by 3/4. Age skew remains under appreciated.
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