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re: #2 overall pick PPR - redraft.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 9:49 am to GynoSandberg
Posted on 10/17/22 at 9:49 am to GynoSandberg
Gyno, is that TD dynasty league still going?
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 9:57 am to GynoSandberg
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It’s just crazy how people speak so matter of factly on here
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It’s not a debate who has been better thus far
That’s pretty matter of factly, no?
There can definitely be a debate about who’s been better so far. Let’s ignore the 33pt game from SB. I think it’s fair if you want to ignore the best as an outlier, you should ignore the worst as well and trim the mean a bit.
If you take out each players best and worse showing so far, they are only separated by .2 pts. That’s as dead even as you’re gonna get.
Both plying really well so far and I think any owner of one or the other is going to be happy ROS.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 9:58 am
Posted on 10/17/22 at 10:13 am to TackySweater
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Gyno, is that TD dynasty league still going?
Not sure. I got out before last year
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That’s pretty matter of factly, no?
Yes, because it’s a fact
33.4 vs 15.7 (Barkley)
11.8 vs 16.8 (CMC)
22.6 vs 13.5 (Barkley)
18.2 vs 25.8 (CMC)
19.6 vs 23.4 (CMC)
18.5 vs 22.8 (CMC)
I’m not interested in outliers, simply illustrating how superficial total points and ppg. 33 point game doesn’t erase the 11 point game follow up. Week to week consistency is all that matters
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 10:15 am
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:00 am to GynoSandberg
So knock his overall performance for one outlier positive week but then don’t do the same for his negative outlier? Ok lol
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:49 am to TackySweater
Yeah this Gyno guy is terrible at arguing against Saquon. Wants to negate his best game but doesn’t take into consideration he missed a drive against the Packers where the backup RB (Gary Brightwell) scored and this week where Saquon slid on the 1 to ice the game instead of getting another TD.
Saquon is 2nd in the league in rushing and has over 70 yards rushing every game. If any game is an outlier, it’s CMC putting up 25.8 against Arizona with a whopping 27 rushing yards or his 15.7 week 1 against Cleveland with 33 rushing yards.
My last point will be unrelated to FF, Saquon’s team is 5-1 meanwhile CMC’s team fired their coach and is 1-5
Saquon is 2nd in the league in rushing and has over 70 yards rushing every game. If any game is an outlier, it’s CMC putting up 25.8 against Arizona with a whopping 27 rushing yards or his 15.7 week 1 against Cleveland with 33 rushing yards.
My last point will be unrelated to FF, Saquon’s team is 5-1 meanwhile CMC’s team fired their coach and is 1-5
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:58 am to spaghettioeauxs
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Saquon is 2nd in the league in rushing and has over 70 yards rushing every game.
RBs don’t just get points for rushing yards.
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If any game is an outlier, it’s CMC putting up 25.8 against Arizona with a whopping 27 rushing yards or his 15.7 week 1 against Cleveland with 33 rushing yards.
Have you ever watched CMC play? When healthy, he’s the best running back in PPR scoring for a reason, and that reason is because 100 receptions is in his range of outcomes.
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My last point will be unrelated to FF, Saquon’s team is 5-1 meanwhile CMC’s team fired their coach and is 1-5
Has nothing to do with anything in this thread. Why even bring it up?
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:15 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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this Gyno guy is terrible
There isn't anyone on this board that's even remotely close to as informed as G.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:22 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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Yeah this Gyno guy is terrible at arguing against Saquon
You say this and follow up with this
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Wants to negate his best game but doesn’t take into consideration he missed a drive against the Packers where the backup RB (Gary Brightwell) scored and this week where Saquon slid on the 1 to ice the game instead of getting another TD.
Saquon is 2nd in the league in rushing and has over 70 yards rushing every game. If any game is an outlier, it’s CMC putting up 25.8 against Arizona with a whopping 27 rushing yards or his 15.7 week 1 against Cleveland with 33 rushing yards.
My last point will be unrelated to FF, Saquon’s team is 5-1 meanwhile CMC’s team fired their coach and is 1-5
That’s some serious retard mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that CMC has outscored Barkley in 4/6 games thus far
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:14 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:55 pm to TackySweater
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So knock his overall performance for one outlier positive week but then don’t do the same for his negative outlier? Ok lol
He’s RB1 bubba, there is no “knocking”, merely providing context. I’m not interested in throwing out any performances, they all count. You can use season long points and averages if that’s your thing.
Here’s a different visual
Week 1
CMC RB17
Barkely RB1
Week 2
CMC RB5
Barkely RB17
Week 3
CMC RB19
Barkely RB 5
Week 4
CMC RB6
Barkley RB 13
Week 5
CMC RB8
Barkely RB13
Week 6
CMC RB3
Barkely RB8
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:02 pm to RB10
Ok so your RB is a one trick pony who can’t even accumulate rushing yards. I’m going to take the more versatile dominant athlete who wasn’t just in the news for being shopped around the league. It’s such a sad cherry picked argument by Gyno to negate Saquon’s best week in order to give CMC the edge he needed. Dude was being consensus drafted at 1.01 or 1.02 but here we are in week 6 and Gyno is saying “well CMC would have more points than that guy going late 2nd round if only he didn’t have that 1 dominant game.” Trash argument
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:12 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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Ok so your RB is a one trick pony who can’t even accumulate rushing yards.
What? Barkley is more of a “one trick pony”. It’s a stupid thing to say about either, but particularly stupid here.
CMC is averaging 65.5 yards rushing and 46 yards receiving. Barkley averages 102.6 rushing and 25 yards receiving.
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I’m going to take the more versatile dominant athlete who wasn’t just in the news for being shopped around the league.
What does this have to do with anything?
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It’s such a sad cherry picked argument by Gyno to negate Saquon’s best week in order to give CMC the edge he needed. Dude was being consensus drafted at 1.01 or 1.02 but here we are in week 6 and Gyno is saying “well CMC would have more points than that guy going late 2nd round if only he didn’t have that 1 dominant game.” Trash argument
CMC is the RB3 in PPR.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:14 pm to spaghettioeauxs
just admit you prematurely ejaculated all over yourself after week 1
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:15 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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your RB is a one trick pony who can’t even accumulate rushing yards
You do realize that RBs get more points for receiving than rushing due to PPR, correct?
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:49 pm to TigerLunatik
I think it’s hilarious y’all are suddenly comparing them as if it’s apples to apples. Before the season, y’all argued CMC was entrenched as the consensus 1.02 behind JT, I argued Saquon was way better value late 2nd. Now y’all just wanna talk about who is doing better, even though y’all’s guy was drafted nearly 15-20 picks earlier. Shouldn’t CMC be held to a higher standard if he’s the consensus 1.02 and he’s still being surpassed by a late 2nd/early 3rd rounder?
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:55 pm to TigerLunatik
And yes I’m aware PPR favors receiving backs, but I’m saying it’s not very feasible for a RB to continually put up RB5 numbers with no rushing contributions. He’s basically last year’s Cordaralle Patterson on steroids. I’d rather the guy who’s putting up stats in all categories with 20 carries a game
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:57 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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Before the season, y’all argued CMC was entrenched as the consensus 1.02 behind JT, I argued Saquon was way better value late 2nd.
What you said was you couldn’t believe people would still draft CMC 2nd overall.
He’s the RB3.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 2:58 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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And yes I’m aware PPR favors receiving backs, but I’m saying it’s not very feasible for a RB to continually put up RB5 numbers with no rushing contributions. He’s basically last year’s Cordaralle Patterson on steroids. I’d rather the guy who’s putting up stats in all categories with 20 carries a game
Jesus Christ.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:01 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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And yes I’m aware PPR favors receiving backs, but I’m saying it’s not very feasible for a RB to continually put up RB5 numbers with no rushing contributions. He’s basically last year’s Cordaralle Patterson on steroids. I’d rather the guy who’s putting up stats in all categories with 20 carries a game
CMC is on pace for
241 rush attempts
1,114 yards rushing
6 TDs
94 catches
785 yards receiving
3 TDs
Take a break, come back when Saquon outscores Mccaffrey again. This is a bad showing on your behalf, literally nothing you’ve said is correct
Posted on 10/17/22 at 3:10 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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Ok so your RB is a one trick pony who can’t even accumulate rushing yards.
I don't have a dog in this fight but nothing you say means jack shite if you really think CMC is a one trick pony. Come on man.
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