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re: Gumbo: how unhealthy is it?

Posted on 2/9/10 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 12:26 pm to
i'd guess most of that fat content is from the sausage, correct?
Posted by Kajungee
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 1:24 pm to
Oil-Less Roux

2 cups all purpose flour

Preheat oven to 375 degrees F. Spread flour evenly across the bottom of a 15-inch cast iron skillet. Bake, stirring occasionally, for approximately 1 hour. Make sure to stir well around the edges of the skillet so flour does not scorch. Cook flour until light or dark color is achieved, depending on use. The roux will become darker when liquid is added. When desired color is reached, cool on a large cookie sheet, stirring occasionally. Store in a sealed jar for future use. 1 cup of oil-less roux will thicken 1 1/2 quarts of stock to a proper gumbo consistency.
Posted by Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 1:31 pm to
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i'd guess most of that fat content is from the sausage, correct?



Sausage..... and chicken stock probably has more fat than seafood stock.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 1:32 pm to
Butter roux or oil roux (which type-some are higher in sat fats than others)?

To skim or not to skim?

Skin on the chicken or not?

All breasts or thighs, included?

It's as healthy as you make it and as unhealthy as you make it, with some of those variables.

It has lots of vegetables that are good for you, especially, if you use celery.
Posted by threeputt
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 2:04 pm to
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Eating 1 bowl = good
Eating 4 bowls = bad


Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 2:10 pm to
You can make short cuts for health. For example, use olive oil instead of corn oil. Trim the fat off the chicken. Yep, there is fat there on raw chicken.
Go easy on the salt. Most gumbos I've had are too salty. That = high blood pressure.

Go with the lowest fat sausage you can find. If you can't do that, boil the sausage in water after poking holes in the casing to release fat. Then slice and add to gumbo near the finish.

If you're using andouille you can't boil the fat out but you can use less per pot.
Posted by coloradoBengal
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 2:17 pm to
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i'd guess most of that fat content is from the sausage, correct?



Sausage..... and chicken stock probably has more fat than seafood stock.


There's a cup of oil in most roux recipes. I've never pulled a cup of oil out of a pound of smoked sausage, and chicken stock might have a tablespoon or two floating around in it.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 2:21 pm to
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There's a cup of oil in most roux recipes

Whoa, Lordy. I've never used more than 1/2 cup of oil in a dutch oven. When I make gumbo for parties of 50 I used two pots with 1/2 cup of oil in each.
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 2:26 pm to
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If not using oil to start the roux....you better be patient and diligent


This should instead read "If not using oil to start the roux, move to Seattle to get the granola you obviously crave."
Posted by SW2SCLA
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 2:28 pm to
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Oil-Less Roux


quote:

cast iron skillet


will a regular skillet work? I'd like to give this a shot, but I own no cast iron skillet.
Posted by AreJay
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 2:28 pm to
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Seafood gumbo is much healthier....and the only gumbo I eat.....only 9 grams of fat per 1 cup serving.


where is everyone getting gumbo nutritional facts from?
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 2:59 pm to
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will a regular skillet work? I'd like to give this a shot, but I own no cast iron skillet.

No type of skillet will work. It has to be a deep pot. Cast Iron is best. Magnalite is good. But you can't make gumbo in a skillet. It's too shallow.
Posted by SW2SCLA
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 3:02 pm to
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But you can't make gumbo in a skillet. It's too shallow


Yeah I know you can't make gumbo in a skillet. Talking about browing the flour in something other than cast iron. I've made gumbo several times before, it's the oil-less part I want clarification on.
Posted by AreJay
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 4:38 pm to
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Yeah I know you can't make gumbo in a skillet. Talking about browing the flour in something other than cast iron. I've made gumbo several times before, it's the oil-less part I want clarification on.


im pretty sure you will be fine without cast iron. it's in an oven so it will be fairly evenly heated no matter what you use. but heavier would be better i'd think.
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 5:08 pm to
I just made chicken and andouille sausage (Jacob's) gumbo this afternoon. Used 1/2 cup of olive and flour for the roux, skinless/boneless chicken thighs browned in the stock pot, quartered the sausage and browned it, then drained the chicken and sausage of fat, made 2+ gallons of gumbo. There are 100's of meals with more fat than gumbo, Jacob's andouille has much less fat than Savoie's or other to begin with. I wouldn't worry about it, it's not like your eating a rack of baby back ribs...
Posted by Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 5:33 pm to
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There's a cup of oil in most roux recipes. I've never pulled a cup of oil out of a pound of smoked sausage, and chicken stock might have a tablespoon or two floating around in it.



Sausage has a lot of fat. But 18g of fat for chick $ sausage gumbo vs. 9 g for seafood. Where else would the fat be coming from?
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 5:38 pm to
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This.

Pretty much applies to most food. Moderation.


Obviously Huey Long knows some shite since this is the correct answer.
Posted by TigerSpy
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 5:56 pm to
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use olive oil instead of corn oi

massive fail in a gumbo, IMO.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 5:56 pm to
I always brown my sausage and drain all excess fat. I roast two chickens and pick all fat and skin off. I then roast the chicken bones on top of a traditional french mirepoux. The dry heat of roasting the bones takes away a lot of fat. I never have to skim any fat off of my chicken and sausage/andouille gumbo.
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 6:43 pm to
I guess I am an infidel as I too use olive oil and have to add okra as well. Have to get some healthy stuff in the dish once in a while.
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