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re: Keegan Bradley expected to be named 2025 Ryder Cup Captain
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:09 pm to cptigger
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:09 pm to cptigger
quote:Harman was one of the lone bright spots at last years RC and he has been solid this year. His style of play is easy to mix with anyone in foursomes or fourball
Harman?
I’d absolutely have him in right now no questions
Clark would be the first one I’d take off personally but I think he would def be in if it was right now
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 9:14 pm
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:48 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Harman was one of the lone bright spots at last years RC
No he wasnt.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:53 pm to JimTiger72
quote:
Your major winners had 1 win out of 8 matches in the last Ryder cup.
That's one more match than Scottie Scheffler won in the last Ryder Cup. So that's a kinda shitty standard you are trying to set by using the shite performance of last RC. If we are going off that performance, none of them should play the next one.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:04 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Yeah but Scottie is the best golfer in the world. The other two are not
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:11 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:
Rickie
I’m ready to never see him at a Ryder Cup again.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:34 pm to Dawgsontop34
Its fair to say that Rickie may be washed up. It was a nice storyline to see him make a little resurgence last year. But he hasnt really maintained his top form. I dont expect to see him on the next team unless he gets some Ws under his belt.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:35 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:He won 2 points
No he wasnt.
2-1 in the team play portions
Also 4th on the team in strokes gained to go with being one of only 3 players to score 2 or more team points
He also has consistent success in match play throughout his career. It would be stupid not to include Harman
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:40 pm to lsupride87
quote:He got 1/2 point more than JT who you said was terrible.
He won 2 points
Decide if points are important or not.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:45 pm to llfshoals
quote:Keep reading the post
He got 1/2 point more than JT who you said was terrible. Decide if points are important or not.
quote:
Also 4th on the team in strokes gained to go with being one of only 3 players to score 2 or more team points
JT being 10th in the team in SG at -6 shows his points were more due to his opponents poor play than his good play
Can there be some outliers in SG with match play lol Dawg pointed out? Yes. JT though was egregiously low. And his putting SG was disgusting. That has nothing to do with match play. He was dead fricking last in the entire Ryder cup in strokes gained putting
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:06 pm to lsupride87
quote:You don’t get it, apparently never will.
JT being 10th in the team in SG at -6 shows his points were more due to his opponents poor play than his good play
Match play is not stroke play. Say that 50 fisking times. Sooner or later maybe you’ll get it, because if you look at the SG of their opponents. Straka should have dominated JT based on SG, who won?
Hovland and Hatton played fantastic by the SG numbers, how did the match with Speith and JT go?
If you have a 10 footer for birdie and your opponent makes bogey you’re an idiot if you do anything but lag it down there and tap it in. That looks terrible on SG but was the perfect shot to play.
Again, again and again. SG is not what matters. You’re not playing the course, you’re playing the opponent. Beating the opponent on the hole is the only important stat.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:46 am to llfshoals
Everyone understands just fine how match play works. 
Justin Thomas went into the Ryder cup playing poorly and putting horribly
That continued on the Ryder cup. Luckily for match play you can play poorly and still win at times. But there was nothing magical about Jt elevating his game. Most of his teammates played better golf than him at the RC just like they were all year and just like they still are now
It would be a bad pick to take Jt right now. And I supported the pick for the 2023 RC for your information. I thought he could elevate his game. He didn’t and he still hasn’t
Let me really blow your mind. Wyndham Clark scored 1.5 points and he only played 3 matches compared to JTs 4.
And Clark was AWFUL as well, worse than JT
Justin Thomas went into the Ryder cup playing poorly and putting horribly That continued on the Ryder cup. Luckily for match play you can play poorly and still win at times. But there was nothing magical about Jt elevating his game. Most of his teammates played better golf than him at the RC just like they were all year and just like they still are now
It would be a bad pick to take Jt right now. And I supported the pick for the 2023 RC for your information. I thought he could elevate his game. He didn’t and he still hasn’t
Let me really blow your mind. Wyndham Clark scored 1.5 points and he only played 3 matches compared to JTs 4.
And Clark was AWFUL as well, worse than JT
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 8:08 am
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:55 am to lsupride87
Saw a little of the interview thought he was picked to be on the RC.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:43 am to lsupride87
quote:
Justin Thomas went into the Ryder cup playing poorly and putting horribly
I missed all the drama when Ryder cup teams were announced last year, but holy shite - were these 3 on the Ryder Cup committee before 2023?
that makes the whole ZJ captain picks even worse. quote:
the U.S. Ryder Cup Committee — which consists of Zach Johnson, Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas, plus three PGA of America executives, including Waugh, who stepped down as CEO at the end of last month
Glad they made it right with Keegan though.
Interesting article about how the decision was made to name him captain & who some of their other options were.
LINK
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:51 am to lsupride87
quote:
If RC was today 10 would be easy to pick. After that no telling
Scottie
Xander
Bryson
Cantlay
Homa
Morikowa
Tony
Harman
Clark
Koepka
My guess would be Burns and Sahith
If it's me I think I leave Finau off. But he's very well could automatically earn his spot. He's only one spot off from doing that and it'd be pretty surprising if he left off the guy 7th in points. It's almost like the top 8 or 9 are essentially automatic qualifiers. Then you have Bryson and Brooks who are probably locks. I'm definitely in the "let's shake up the roster a bit" camp. But there's only so much shake up you can do.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:32 pm to lsupride87
quote:You apparently have no clue.
Everyone understands just fine how match play works.
quote:Thats because you’re not playing the course, you’re playing the opponent.
Luckily for match play you can play poorly and still win at times.
quote:bunch of players by your stats on the American team played better, and scored fewer points. Apparently you think it’s ok to have better stats and fewer points. Hint….that’s called losing.
Most of his teammates played better golf than him at the RC just like they were all year and just like they still are now
quote:Maybe, it’s going to depend on who else is available. Again…hint…don’t go for the best stats. Go for the best fit for the team.
It would be a bad pick to take Jt right now
quote:Based on points scored it was a good pick, scored more than most of the ones who qualified. Again…points scored matters
And I supported the pick for the 2023 RC for your information. I thought he could elevate his game. He didn’t and he still hasn’t
quote:Pretty sure I pointed that out
Let me really blow your mind. Wyndham Clark scored 1.5 points and he only played 3 matches compared to JTs 4.
quote:Scored more points than
And Clark was AWFUL as well, worse than JT
Scheffler
Morikawa
Xander
Burns
Clark won or tied 2 of his 3 matches. He had the 3rd BEST showing after Homa and Cantlay.
You really don’t know how Ryder Cup works do you?
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:49 pm to llfshoals
quote:
Clark won or tied 2 of his 3 matches. He had the 3rd BEST showing after Homa and Cantlay. You really don’t know how Ryder Cup works do you?
You’re also acting like pairings don’t matter, which just isn’t true. Bob McIntyre got his arse carried by Justin Rose in one of the four balls and was playing against a terrible Spieth/Thomas team but he still gets a point for it.
Also, Sergio and Phil had that epic match a few years back where they both shot 62 or whatever at Hazeltine. I don’t think it means Rickie Fowler was better who beat Justin Rose 1 up when Rose had 1 birdie all day.
It’s a combination of the two. At the end of the day, you’re correct, all that matters is winning. But also, you have to take partners and opponents into account to see how well people actually played.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:11 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:They do, who set the pairings? In the end what matters more? Points
You’re also acting like pairings don’t matter, which just isn’t true. Bob McIntyre got his arse carried by Justin Rose in one of the four balls and was playing against a terrible Spieth/Thomas team but he still gets a point for it.
quote:Which again proves the point. Did it matter what they shot? No it did not.
Also, Sergio and Phil had that epic match a few years back where they both shot 62 or whatever at Hazeltine. I don’t think it means Rickie Fowler was better who beat Justin Rose 1 up when Rose had 1 birdie all day.
quote:Not really. Does it matter how they scored? The epic Hazeltine match you referenced gave both teams 1/2 point by two guys playing fantastic golf. Those 2 scored 62, and if they shot 82 and halved it counts exactly the same. Reed beat McElroy by simply being better on enough holes and being absolutely determined to beat him. He couldn’t have cared less what he shot as long as he finished at least 1 up, and he did.
It’s a combination of the two. At the end of the day, you’re correct, all that matters is winning. But also, you have to take partners and opponents into account to see how well people actually played.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:13 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:Dude you just don’t get match play
Also, Sergio and Phil had that epic match a few years back where they both shot 62 or whatever at Hazeltine. I don’t think it means Rickie Fowler was better who beat Justin Rose 1 up when Rose had 1 birdie all day. It’s a combination of the two. At the end of the day, you’re correct, all that matters is winning. But also, you have to take partners and opponents into account to see how well people actually played.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:15 pm to llfshoals
quote:let’s do a Davis cup scenario shall we? Me and my buddy who is a top 10 in the world doubles player on one team vs you and Djok on another
llfshoals
If I play you in a tennis match I will beat the shite out of you
If my buddy who is clearly better plays Djokovic he would lose
All about playing the opponent im so much better and they should clearly take me because I got the point for the team
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:22 pm to llfshoals
quote:And if the player was a captains pick it was a horrible pick if his player is shooting 82 even if he gets a full point, vs a captains pick who shoots 62 and loses was still a good pick
Those 2 scored 62, and if they shot 82 and halved it counts exactly the same.
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