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Anyone Done Mediterranean Diet?

Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:21 am
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:21 am
I’ve done bloodwork the last few years and have really high cholesterol. It is genetic, but my doctor wants to avoid putting me on meds at my age (29) so he wants me to do an aggressive Mediterranean diet. Any tips for this or guides to follow? I will be cutting out red meats completely and removing any alcohol or sodas which will help, but some tips would be appreciated so I don’t experience immediate burnout
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37329 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:39 am to
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’ve done bloodwork the last few years and have really high cholesterol. It is genetic, but my doctor wants to avoid putting me on meds at my age (29) so he wants me to do an aggressive Mediterranean diet. Any tips for this or guides to follow? I will be cutting out red meats completely and removing any alcohol or sodas which will help, but some tips would be appreciated so I don’t experience immediate burnout


nothing special about the Mediterranean diet, just a way to control calories

but biggest thing is losing weight, cutting out processed crap and cut alcohol. For most, ingestion of dietary cholesterol doesnt have much of an effect on cholesterol levels

biggest thing is get in a caloric deficit, make your diet protein based, cut out all processed crap, start walking a lot and try and lift weights in a progressive manner 2-3x per week.
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
938 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:03 am to
Thank you! I’m not completely inactive, as I walk around the plant daily and the dogs in the evening, probably 3-5 miles per day, but I am not currently going to gym but I will be starting. Kind of an eye opener with the concern the doctor had, but guess now is as good a time as any. I would definitely like to cut out 20 lbs by end of year
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1772 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:30 am to
Sometimes you can't fight genetics. I waited and waited. I finally got my heart scan done at 46. 29% blockage in the widowmaker. Now that I am on Zetia and a Statin, cholesterol is in the 140s.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37329 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:49 am to
there are supplements that can help too, if you are interested ill post you a list
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
938 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:50 am to
I am definitely interested! I’m having my first baby in December and it’s hitting me that I need to get healthy and on track for him
Posted by Grillades
Member since Nov 2009
626 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:08 am to
For similar reasons, I went on that same eating plan last year at 57 years old so I have a bit different situation than you. That plan is a drastic change from a typical Louisiana diet but combined with regular exercise, it totally changed my labs for the better. As you know, the diet focuses on whole fruits, vegetables, and some whole grains. Meat is an occasional inclusion. If I eat meat, it's chicken, turkey, or salmon. It took me a while to get used to lentils and beans instead of potato chips and a malt but the cravings lessened over time. On the positive side, I lost a fair amount of weight, haven't felt better in decades, have more energy, and don't get nearly as hungry as before.

Plan your meals so you don't cheat out of convenience because cheating leads to more cheating. Eating whole fruits and vegetables requires more frequent trips to the grocery so think ahead about what you will consume for a week and plan the grocery trips accordingly. If there are others in the home with you, try to get them to eat the meals you can have. Weakness is intensified if everyone around you is eating a hamburger while you have chickpea and cucumber salad (which is actually pretty good). Also, read food labels. There is so much trash included in packaged foods that you will end up well off the path in no time if you eat blindly.

While the transition seems rough, its fine once you get in the routine. Good luck.
Posted by Grillades
Member since Nov 2009
626 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:34 am to
@LSU777
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nothing special about the Mediterranean diet, just a way to control calories


That position may overlook some of the other benefits of the Mediterranean diet. It includes lots of soluble and insoluble fiber which help control blood sugar and serum cholesterol, includes foods high in nutrients compared to typical American diets, and it reduces saturated fat intake which is a component of arterial plaque. For those with known heart-health issues, it's a big step forward. By the way, thanks for your continuous activity on this board. Your responses have helped me immensely.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 11:40 am
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4905 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 11:59 am to
I’m reading and studying “The Big Fat Surprise” currently.

Ironically, the Mediterranean diet became popularized after Dr Keys a scientist performed his “Seven Countries Test” back in the 1950’s (and was funded with $20m from Proctor & Gamble). He found that the Greeks consumed very little meat and lots of olive oil so they deemed they found the magic to heart health.

What Keys did not note was he performed his test during the middle of a very strict Greek Orthodox annual fast.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37329 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 12:27 pm to
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it reduces saturated fat intake which is a component of arterial plaque.


not true for most people.

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For those with known heart-health issues, it's a big step forward


but 99% of the benefits are because it forces you get rid of the processed foods and eat whole foods that are much more satiating which causes most to eat less

95% of the health benefits of any diet are going to because

1) caloric deficit
2) cutting of processed foods that cause inflammation
3) if an elimination diet like Carnivore, whole30 etc... removes almost all foods that are known to cause distress, inflammation etc

nothing really special about the Mediterranean diet, its just a basic whole food diet with lots of veggies and things are cooked in healthier ways

but the findings on the mediterranean diet are all correlation based and based on the health of those countries and what they eat. the correlations do not factor in things like step count, consumption of caffeine, total caloric intake etc that are all shown to help with all cause mortality

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37329 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 12:34 pm to
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I am definitely interested! I’m having my first baby in December and it’s hitting me that I need to get healthy and on track for him


for cholesterol specifically, dont be scared of low dosed statin but these will help tremendously

1) nattokinase @ 12,000 iu daily (3 caps morning, 3 before bed)
LINK

2) citrus bergmont- 1200mg twice daily (2 caps morning, 2 before bed)
LINK

3) Vitamin K- 1 in the morning, 1 before bed.
LINK
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39185 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 2:29 pm to
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I’m reading and studying “The Big Fat Surprise” currently.
It's great and she's great.

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Ironically, the Mediterranean diet became popularized after Dr Keys a scientist performed his “Seven Countries Test” back in the 1950’s
My memory was she said the Med Diet was basically created out of whole cloth when they were taking all those food industry workers on junkets to Europe. She makes the point that there are like 27 countries on the Mediterranean - with LOTS of variation between them. In short, it's a diet that doesn't even really exist.

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onically, the Mediterranean diet became popularized after Dr Keys a scientist performed his “Seven Countries Test” back in the 1950’s (and was funded with $20m from Proctor & Gamble). He found that the Greeks consumed very little meat and lots of olive oil so they deemed they found the magic to heart health.

What Keys did not note was he performed his test during the middle of a very strict Greek Orthodox annual fast.
It was also smack dab in the middle of most-WWII austerity. I believe the island in question had been massive meat eaters, but were essentially too poor for meat when he found them...and that's before any considerations of ridiculously tainted data (the urns he shipped back to the US lol).

Olive oil - that's my favorite trivia question for people that I got from the book. She claims there is basically zero evidence of any peoples anywhere consuming olive oil as part of their diet prior to like 1885.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23085 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:55 pm to
I have some family members who tried it. Eating lots of seafood was ok. Nobody lost more than a few pounds though.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21052 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 8:08 pm to
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Cutting out red meats completely



You would be better off cutting out gmo wheat completely. Nothing wrong with red meat as long as it’s organic / grass fed.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5498 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 9:08 pm to
Cutting out all that junk food, sodas, alcohol, sugars... is a big factor.

Sugar is almost a poison as is HFCS.

IDK much about the Mediterranean Diet per say but the foods listed below will help you get your cholesterol levels to where they need to be.

Try eating a few avocados a week, you can flavor them up with a little sage and lemon pepper.

Eat a small handful of almonds per day, broccoli & cauliflower is great too. Nuts like sunflower seeds and walnuts

Omega 3 rich foods like fish, salmon, sardines, mackerel. I take a fish oil supplement a few times a week.

Hope this helps.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37329 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 10:32 pm to
Sugar isn’t poison and it’s the cutting of the calories
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77558 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 1:54 pm to
It has benefits other than just calorie control. It is good for heart health and avoiding sugar level spikes as well as decreasing inflammation.
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1409 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 7:29 pm to
How much do you weigh? You are too young to be having high cholesterol.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26443 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 8:07 pm to
Didn't you recommend Nattokinase at some point?
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
938 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 8:47 pm to
I’m 6 foot and weigh 210
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