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re: Micro Dosing Mushrooms
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:28 pm to lsu777
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:28 pm to lsu777
quote:You're so close to getting it, but then getting in your own way.
Shouldn’t you treat the underlying issue instead of just covering it up with drugs? Maybe y’all have tried that I dunno, just seems weird as frick and similar to an alcoholic using it, someone using MJ to treat mental issues and krantom.
Seems to me going hmafter what is causing the trauma or the depression would be the first step
Yes, PRESCRIBED drugs like SSRIs do precisely this - they treat symptoms and don't mine for root causes.
Psychedelics EXPLICITLY attempt to go after actual root causes.
I'm legit shocked that you don't know all of this already.
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:49 pm to lsu777
quote:Psychedelics are often used - very effectively - to address substance abuse disorders. As studies were basically banned for decades, there is a pretty big hole in the literature. However, there are MANY studies on this very topic being conducted presently - with lots of results coming out monthly.
1) my real mom is an addict and has been my whole life
2) she used while pregnant with me and through my whole childhood until she just up and left when i was in 6th grade
i have seen plenty through that time, so im always going to be against use of narcotics but if it makes you feel better i think those that choose to drink everyday are alcoholics.
so i come from a a background...thats lets say makes me quite skeptical.
but if it allows you to function and doesnt affect your health or relationships in your life...more power to you. Usually i have not witnessed that to be the case, but to be fair...i try to avoid people that are like that.
And one HUGE benefit of substances like psilocybin particular is that there is no known body toxicity OR lethal dose. That paves the way through Phase 1 trials pretty easily, as that is often what Phase 1 is pre-occupied with.
So, to summarize:
Psilocybin = non-addictive, non-toxic, organic/"natural" (i.e. food) and very likely highly effective at dealing with a wide range of mental/emotional health issues (and possibly physical health).
I will say, I'm mostly talking about MACRO-dosing. But micro-dosing is very likely - at worse - harmless.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:53 pm to lsu777
quote:Micro-dosing is BY DEFINITION NOT "tripping balls".
till dont think a family man should just be tripping balls either but to each their own.
But your dismissive lingo exposes your bias. Macro-dosing - in highly curated, intentional environments- is a very powerful path to mining the underlying trauma and root causes you keep talking about. Why the need to refer to it as "tripping balls"? It would be like saying about surgery - "look, I don't think a family man should be having a KNIFE PARTY" as if surgery in a hospital were similar to an organ-harvesting in a bathtub full of ice.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:07 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:10 am to Big Scrub TX
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Micro-dosing is BY DEFINITION NOT "tripping balls".
But your dismissive lingo exposes your bias. Macro-dosing - in highly curated, intentional environments- is a very powerful path to mining the underlying trauma and root causes you keep talking about. Why the need to refer to it as "tripping balls"? It would be like saying about surgery - "look, I don't think a family man should be having a KNIFE PARTY" as if surgery in a hospital were similar to an organ-harvesting in a bathtub full of ice.
if you look when I said tripping balls I was replying to a guy who said he was going to macro dose, not micro
and why are you surprised I don't know a bunch of this already? I have said in multiple threads prolly 100 times over the life of this board, I don't understand nor really care to understand mental side of things. It literally does not affect me so I don't research it. I'm completely blind on those types of things. 100% completely have admitted to that plenty of times.
I do know many times depression is tied to self image and activity levels, so I will help people with those things
severe mental issues...yae that aint my thing. I can give advice on having self awareness and self confidence but mental issues are not my thing nor would i ever really want to explore. in fact I'm pretty much a dick when it comes to those types of things and usually come from the school of get the frick over it or tuck that shite deep inside and never think about it again and go about life being awesome.
the way I think is not conducive to helping those with mental problems other than looking at it from a systematic point of view. I'm just not good at that
and I'm not really critiquing the use of mushrooms, just that it prolly isn't the end all be all as some claim, it prolly shouldn't be the first go to, and it can be dangerous as its black market.
I have no idea if there are harm reduction communities out there, if there are, sure they help a ton.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:43 am to lsu777
quote:I don't think I ever saw that, but I do appreciate the self-awareness and honesty of this post.
and why are you surprised I don't know a bunch of this already? I have said in multiple threads prolly 100 times over the life of this board, I don't understand nor really care to understand mental side of things. It literally does not affect me so I don't research it. I'm completely blind on those types of things. 100% completely have admitted to that plenty of times.
quote:You mentioned root sources - self-image problems are themselves a symptom of underlying, much larger issues.
I do know many times depression is tied to self image and activity levels, so I will help people with those things
quote:Nothing is the end all be all. However, mushrooms have been absurdly Schedule 1 for decades. The feds attempting to completely eliminate a potential source of wellness (in exchange for approving the daily use of MANY types of poison) for the masses has been disastrous. I don't necessarily disagree on the black market comment, although mushrooms are probably one of the most inherently safe black market items out there.
and I'm not really critiquing the use of mushrooms, just that it prolly isn't the end all be all as some claim, it prolly shouldn't be the first go to, and it can be dangerous as its black market.
quote:Yes, there are many. And they do help. Also, there are legal spaces for psilocybin in other countries, most notably Jamaica.
I have no idea if there are harm reduction communities out there, if there are, sure they help a ton.
My unsolicited two cents: you sound unusually hardened on the topic of mental health. It might be good for you to loosen up a little and look what's out there.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:00 am to Big Scrub TX
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Nothing is the end all be all. However, mushrooms have been absurdly Schedule 1 for decades. The feds attempting to completely eliminate a potential source of wellness (in exchange for approving the daily use of MANY types of poison) for the masses has been disastrous. I don't necessarily disagree on the black market comment, although mushrooms are probably one of the most inherently safe black market items out there.
this we agree with....frick the feds and their bullshite
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My unsolicited two cents: you sound unusually hardened on the topic of mental health. It might be good for you to loosen up a little and look what's out there.
the reason i dont is i literally have zero mental health issues and never really have. its why i literally have almost zero understanding on the subject in many ways when talking about a serious issue, not just something like my wife is a whore and im depressed kind of thing.
i havent looked into it because i have had zero need. But to each their own. I would much much much rather see someone seek help than go off and commit suicide and if anyone ever ever ever just needs someone to talk to, i would be more than happy to give my personal phone number to anyone on this board. I dont care if i have no clue who you are, i generally just want to see people do well and thrive...i love seeing people kick arse; especially when they are the first in their family to do so, breaking generations of under performing!! Love it.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:52 am to lsu777
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love seeing people kick arse; especially when they are the first in their family to do so, breaking generations of under performing!! Love it.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:22 pm to Big Scrub TX
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It might be good for you to loosen up a little and look what's out there.
The two Huberman podcasts that I linked earlier in the thread are very good.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:22 pm to lsu777
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and I'm not really critiquing the use of mushrooms, just that it prolly isn't the end all be all as some claim, it prolly shouldn't be the first go to, and it can be dangerous as its black market
Agree that it is not a panacea. Nothing is. But it can be part of a wider reaching program. I don't think anyone is saying it is a cure all but it can be beneficial when used with other self care protocols including proper diet, exercise, good sleep, meditation, etc.
It is almost never the first choice. Most start with SSRIs which are just bad and have terrible side effects. They are truly just a mask for the underlying issues. Treating the symptoms.
There is no danger if you do it right. It cost about $150 to get fully set up to grow your own and it is stupid easy and actually fun.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:53 pm to lsu777
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havent looked into it because i have had zero need. But to each their own. I would much much much rather see someone seek help than go off and commit suicide and if anyone ever ever ever just needs someone to talk to, i would be more than happy to give my personal phone number to anyone on this board. I dont care if i have no clue who you are, i generally just want to see people do well and thrive...i love seeing people kick arse; especially when they are the first in their family to do so, breaking generations of under performing!! Love it.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:48 am to Jerrysworld
Bumping this thread because I searched to read other experiences and wanted to share mine for anyone else that is curious.
I have a long history of macrodoses of various psychedelics over the years, but never micro. I went in skeptical, but it proved me wrong. I started microdosing mushrooms about two months ago. Man, this stuff is like a cheat code for productivity. Paradoxically, it's also fantastic for relaxation. On days I dose, I can really crank out some work. I kind of describe it like adderall without the speed. You can get in that zone and really stay there. And then last week on vacation, a microdose was a great accompaniment with a beer and music by the pool.
It took me a little while to dial in my dosage. I've settled on 120 mg for a work day dose. A couple of days, I definitely took too much and really felt it. That made for some fun meetings at work where lights were a little brighter and my thoughts were hard to control as my body had a slight tingle. 120 mg puts me right at the edge of feeling it. 200 mg is good for a weekend dose.
I do not do it everyday. Typically, 1 day on, 2 days off. Occasionally, if I know I'll have a couple busy days of work, I'll go back-to-back days. I'm coming up on my first long break of a few weeks to reset.
I can't speak to the mental health side of things. I'm generally in a good place with that, so additional help is not needed. I look at it more from a "PED" standpoint.
I have a long history of macrodoses of various psychedelics over the years, but never micro. I went in skeptical, but it proved me wrong. I started microdosing mushrooms about two months ago. Man, this stuff is like a cheat code for productivity. Paradoxically, it's also fantastic for relaxation. On days I dose, I can really crank out some work. I kind of describe it like adderall without the speed. You can get in that zone and really stay there. And then last week on vacation, a microdose was a great accompaniment with a beer and music by the pool.
It took me a little while to dial in my dosage. I've settled on 120 mg for a work day dose. A couple of days, I definitely took too much and really felt it. That made for some fun meetings at work where lights were a little brighter and my thoughts were hard to control as my body had a slight tingle. 120 mg puts me right at the edge of feeling it. 200 mg is good for a weekend dose.
I do not do it everyday. Typically, 1 day on, 2 days off. Occasionally, if I know I'll have a couple busy days of work, I'll go back-to-back days. I'm coming up on my first long break of a few weeks to reset.
I can't speak to the mental health side of things. I'm generally in a good place with that, so additional help is not needed. I look at it more from a "PED" standpoint.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:26 pm to BottomlandBrew
That's interesting to hear. What is the mushroom equivalent of 120mg?
I will say there has been some growing body of research showing a potential long-term heart impact of microdosing. Probably good to turn it off for several months at a time.
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I will say there has been some growing body of research showing a potential long-term heart impact of microdosing. Probably good to turn it off for several months at a time.
LINK
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:50 am to Big Scrub TX
I just meant 120 mg of dried mushrooms. In my case, golden teacher. Different mushrooms will have different dosage depending on the Psilocybin content.
I've seen that about the heart.
I've seen that about the heart.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:23 am to BottomlandBrew
The last time I did mushrooms was in college at a camp out and I saw Bigfoot looking at me from the woods.
If I microdose will he come back?
If I microdose will he come back?
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 10:53 am
Posted on 6/21/25 at 5:08 pm to SquatchDawg
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If I microdose will he come back?
Mist assuredly.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 5:11 pm to BottomlandBrew
I really want to try this but don't know how to get started.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 7:40 pm to La Place Mike
Look up ryza manure pods and then its legal to buy spores online. Im sure there are cheaper ways, but its all about convenience for me with the ryza pods.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 7:44 pm to BottomlandBrew
Sounds like more effort than I want to put in to it. Is it a difficult process?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 6:34 am to La Place Mike
It's really easy and requires almost no intervention. 4-6 weeks in a dark cabinet followed by a few days of spraying it with water and then dehydrating. Like 15 minutes of actual work.
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