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Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:59 am
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
937 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:59 am
I am looking for recs on weight belts. I am not looking to break records or anything, I just need some extra support while working out at home. I have been dealing with my lower back hurting on and off since July and I am finally feeling good enough to exercise again.

Do soft weight belts accomplish the same thing as the more stiff ones? What should I be looking for as a 55 year old man who works out 4 or 5 days a week on a Tonal at home?

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11521 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:10 am to
Never have used one. Your abs and lower back are your natural 'weight belt'.
Posted by way_south
Member since Jul 2017
937 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:17 am to
My lower back is my issue and I want to help protect it while getting in my exercise.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11521 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:35 am to
Belt isn't really going to help its just a false sense of security really unless you are an Elite Powerlifter
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37375 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 11:15 am to
dont listen to the other non sense by people who ignore research for the sake of being "functional"

i belt helps you brace and cuts injury risk because of that.

dunno about you, but im not going around picking up objects that are 200+ lbs very often outside of the gym and the most functional lift i do is curls for helping carry the groceries in

for belt, i have the rogue ohio and really like it
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11521 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 12:30 pm to


Plenty of studies out there show that weight belts DO NOT work.

Also, the likelihood he is lifting heavy enough weight to even make use of one st about 0.0%

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37375 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Plenty of studies out there show that weight belts DO NOT work.


you sure?

quote:

Thus, using a weightlifting belt and wrist straps is recommended for recreational weightlifters to improve lifting kinematics, shorten the time taken to perform a deadlift and decrease perceived exertion. However, using wrist straps alone is not recommended as it may exaggerate thoracic kyphosis and could lead to injury.


LINK

quote:

Wearing abdominal belts raises intra-muscular pressure of the erector spinae muscles and appears to stiffen the trunk. Assuming that increased intra-muscular pressure of the erector spinae muscles stabilizes the lumbar spine, wearing abdominal belts may contribute to the stabilization during lifting exertions.


LINK


LINK

plenty more too I just cant access them as they are behind pay wall and i no longer have a subscription for it.
Posted by jose
Member since Feb 2009
29679 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:55 pm to
Agreed. I love my belt. I took one from the gym I used to go to before they closed. The owners gave it to me as a parting gift . It has since ripped and I had to toss it.

But my current gym has the exact one and I use it very often.

This is the one I like:



I used to have a velcro one and I much rather the belt buckle locks over velcro.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1267 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 2:19 pm to
Rogue leather belts are good. I personally don't like soft belts.

Pay no attention to naysayers regarding belts and straps. If I want to train grip and abs, I'll train grip and abs. If you don't need straps for deadlifts, you're weak (for double overhand).
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
26069 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 2:51 pm to
Get a 3" double ply non-tapered leather belt with a single prong in the buckle.

A good belt will last you decades.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11521 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

If you don't need straps for deadlifts, you're weak (for double overhand).


This is just dumb. Lot of variables at play here for one. Was Franco Columbu 'weak' at deadlifts? He was also a midget with tiny hands and still didn't need straps. He used various grip styles on the bar sometimes under/over sometimes double overhand.
This post was edited on 11/6/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1267 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 3:00 pm to
Ron, I like you, but that word salad is nonsense. You know exactly what I’m referring to. To the people who say if you have to have straps when you’re dead lifting your grip is just weak. If I followed that I couldn’t dead lift more than 405 for three or four, double overhand. That’s why I put the qualifier double overhand. I don’t need straps for switch grip. However, that really aggravates my elbow to be in that position.
Posted by PrezCock
Florida
Member since Sep 2019
904 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:17 pm to
This is the one I have;

https://www.amazon.com/Schiek-Leather-Competition-Lifting-Medium/dp/B001ANRRHK?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1

I'm not sure if anyone has taught you valsalva maneuver. Research it. It's purpose is to increase the pressure in your thoracic cavity. This will help brace your core (spinal stability) throughout your lift. Belts help increase that pressure because it allows you to push against it.

I hope that helps.

ETA: I usually only use a belt at 75% or higher of my 1RM. Below I do not use a belt because I think it's important to build up those stabilizing systems without help.
This post was edited on 11/6/24 at 7:21 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
14473 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

Wearing abdominal belts raises intra-muscular pressure of the erector spinae muscles and appears to stiffen the trunk.


OP, the belt itself doesn’t do anything. You generating abdominal pressure pushing against the belt creates the trunk stiffening.


Maybe you should spend time on abs and stretching your hamstrings to decrease stiffness etc causing back issues before you worry about a belt.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15532 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 8:20 pm to
Gonna piggy back off the OP here....do any of y'all use wrist straps? I've got some Rogue wrist straps, but never use them when I lift. My wrists never hurt or bother me, except when I'm in the front rack position. That's primarily due to my shitty mobility. I'm working on that.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
14473 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 4:12 am to
Straps or wraps? I’ll only use wraps when I’m the front rack (not often) because my left wrist wants to flex too much on occasion. My days of needing constrictors on bench are long behind me.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15532 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 6:52 am to
My bad. Wraps.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11521 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Wearing abdominal belts raises intra-muscular pressure of the erector spinae muscles and appears to stiffen the trunk. Assuming that increased intra-muscular pressure of the erector spinae muscles stabilizes the lumbar spine, wearing abdominal belts may contribute to the stabilization during lifting exertions.


You need to pay attention to the words you copied and pasted. I appear and may be on my way to having some sex with the newest 24 year old gym bunny at the gym (date this weekend) but that doesn't mean I will. Weight belts aren't doing diddly shite for anyone who isn't an elite powerlifter or powerbuilder who is throwing around tons of weight.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37375 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:56 am to
quote:

You need to pay attention to the words you copied and pasted


have you ever read an actual study in your life at all? every single one talks like that because no study is 100% proof of something. That is not how science works


quote:

appear and may be on my way to having some sex with the newest 24 year old gym bunny at the gym (date this weekend) but that doesn't mean I will.


according to you....you have "slayed" thousands of women....Im sure you slay plenty of gym bunnies Mr Wilt Chamberlin

we are lucky to be in your presence. thank you for allowing it


quote:

Weight belts aren't doing diddly shite for anyone who isn't an elite powerlifter or powerbuilder who is throwing around tons of weight.


great retort....im sure the three studies i posted and a simple google scholar search shows that.

not to mention almost everyone can lift more weight using a belt....but hey the gym bunny slayer himself...ronricks says it doesnt do shite...so we must believe him

Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3746 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:47 am to
This thread is wildly entertaining.

I am curious about this statement:
quote:

Weight belts aren't doing diddly shite for anyone who isn't an elite powerlifter or powerbuilder who is throwing around tons of weight.

Can anyone describe what belts are doing for elite powerlifters that they refuse to do for say....an average powerlifter? Or even one who does not lift powerfully in any aspect?

Like...if the belt sees that you only have 3 plates on the bar, is it like "nah, I'm not bracing your core for that tiny weight. throw one more on and I'll think about doing my job - you deserve to slip a disk trying to pull a weak arse 315"
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 11:49 am
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