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cgrand! horticulturists! help me save my japanese maple

Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:17 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92121 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:17 pm




soooo Typical CAD-tastrophe i just wanted to fix the erosion around my japanese maple at the top of the hill behind my house. what could go wrong? just need a few pavers and maybe some construction adhesive to keep them together right?

After tearing down the existing nonsense i inherited i realized i needed a proper retaining wall and guessed at how many blocks i would need (actually this was more a physics question; i couldn't push the home depot cart with more than 26 25lb pavers and 10 bags of gravel...but i digress



so the final tally is 66 retaining wall blocks and 20 bags of gravel, 3 trips to home depot and 2 pair of gloves. you can see from this pic how far up the gravel is going; somewhere between 5 and 6 pavers high in the back. i think my drainage issue should be fine.



ok so nearly $400 later and i'm at the point where i need to decide what to do next. see below.



So my questions:

do i just fill the rest up with dirt to where the roots seem to meet the base of the tree? I am planning to continue adding soil as it settles to make sure all roots are now covered.

are there any concerns with the roots being exposed to the elements for this long? this poor tree has been in this shape for the 2 years we've lived here (2 0-degree winters) and it bounced back in the spring really well both times.

do i need to add anything like lime, miracle grow, etc?

am i doing it wrong? is there anything else you can tell me that i should do to make sure my poor baby has a nice blanket this year and can grow uninpeded and strong?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5706 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

do i just fill the rest up with dirt to where the roots seem to meet the base of the tree?

Yes, but not too high, not any higher than the base of the trunk root flare.

Nice job on the retaining wall.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
47016 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:53 pm to
yeah the wall looks fantastic
Those exposed roots are hardened off so the tree will be fine. Go ahead and infill up to about 6” below where roots all come together, water it to melt it in as you go. you’ll want to feed that tree in the spring

well done brah
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42575 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:59 pm to
I wouldn't add soil, those exposed roots have hardened off so aren't capable of absorbing nutrients from the soil . The soil may actually promote rot of the roots. Better to add a natural mulch.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
47016 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 9:14 pm to
yeah maybe sand would be better, mixed with some mulch or peat
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92121 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 8:07 am to
quote:

wouldn't add soil, those exposed roots have hardened off so aren't capable of absorbing nutrients from the soil . The soil may actually promote rot of the roots. Better to add a natural mulch.
interesting and good point. I hadn't thought about the fact the tree had already adapted to some degree to the fact the roots were aboveground.

So leave them exposed to some degree and just add a little finishing mulch and sand? No soil at all or should I add a little above the gravel line then cover with mulch?
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42575 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 11:00 am to
You can cover all the exposed roots with mulch just don't let the mulch touch the tree trunk at the root flare. The mulch will slowly decompose into a compost that will provide nutrients if there are parts of the roots that can still adsorb those nutrients. So as that much decomposes and settles , add a little more each year to keep the roots covered.
Posted by luvdoc
"Please Ignore Our Yelp Reviews"
Member since May 2005
1108 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 11:02 am to
Even consider removing the top row of stone to make the exposed roots a feature
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1470 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Even consider removing the top row of stone to make the exposed roots a feature

I like dis idea me.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
10194 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:21 pm to
I had a similar issue with roots and like others stated, make it a feature. I used pea gravel and the silica stuff that keeps it in place, like a bonsai tree root bed. Get a dark gravel and the roots will pop.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92121 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Even consider removing the top row of stone to make the exposed roots a feature
that sounds like a pita my arms are still sore from hauling them up the damn hill...



....having said all that in light of what others are saying i think you're right

ok FINE. i'll take it down.
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
1118 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:13 am to
OK to add 1 to 2" open mulch like pine bark following advice about keeping flare clear. J maples prefer slightly acid pH, get a soil test. Those blocks will probably leach lime making soil alkaline... adjust as needed. Walls and walks trigger more joint and tendon problems than any other DIY task...age is a factor.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92121 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:30 am to
quote:

OK to add 1 to 2" open mulch like pine bark following advice about keeping flare clear. J maples prefer slightly acid pH, get a soil test. Those blocks will probably leach lime making soil alkaline... adjust as needed. Walls and walks trigger more joint and tendon problems than any other DIY task...age is a factor.
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