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Posted on 1/29/26 at 3:39 pm to LanierSpots
Also, if you put in the work and time to protect them it basically guarantees that you will only hit like 48F thereby saving all of your neighbors' yards. 
Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:01 am to Tigerlaff
I visited my local fruit tree nursery yesterday afternoon. They’ve had a really rough go of it over the last year or so. The nursery is on a small lake which flooded during Hurricane Milton and had saltwater intrusion. She lost quite a few trees on the lowest part of the property after that.
More recently, the near freezing temperatures have done a number on the mangoes, lychees, papayas and bananas. I suspect the next week or so is going to be brutal for them. They’ve got 1,000+ trees in pots ranging from 3 gallon all the way up to 60 gallons covering several acres. There’s just no really practical way to protect them all. They are busy trying to lay them all down and protect them with sheets; but, leaf burn is already present on many and there’s lots of trees without leaves already which will almost assuredly die.
They are calling for an outside chance of snow here Saturday night. Wild times.
More recently, the near freezing temperatures have done a number on the mangoes, lychees, papayas and bananas. I suspect the next week or so is going to be brutal for them. They’ve got 1,000+ trees in pots ranging from 3 gallon all the way up to 60 gallons covering several acres. There’s just no really practical way to protect them all. They are busy trying to lay them all down and protect them with sheets; but, leaf burn is already present on many and there’s lots of trees without leaves already which will almost assuredly die.
They are calling for an outside chance of snow here Saturday night. Wild times.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:06 am to wiltznucs
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They are calling for an outside chance of snow here Saturday night. Wild times.
I saw that on the forecast and was laughing. WTF. Your area is going to get a little colder than mine. Central Florida from Gainesville to Orlando to Tampa is going to get devastated by the next 3 days unfortunately. So much agricultural damage as well as landscaping stuff, it will be hard to find a palm tree anywhere for sale this summer/
Posted on 1/30/26 at 9:24 am to LanierSpots
Posted on 1/30/26 at 10:51 am to Tigerlaff
Well, got a deal today. Stopped by my local nursery that I use today to pick up a few things and they were scrambling trying to prepare for the weekend. I have talked to the owner a few times about the flame throwers and told him I was going to get one.
He has them for $199 in a 7gallon regularly. He had a couple that looked pretty good so I jokingly told him Id give him $50 for one today. He stared at me and said, "how about $75?"
So I got this one for $75. Gonna leave it outside today since its 71 deg and maybe tonight since its going to be 60 over night then bring it inside for a few days. I have a nice spot picked out for in in front of a double window that gets plenty of indirect light.
We will see if I can keep it alive.
I tried to work with him on a lipstick palm but he would not budge. $499. No thanks
He has them for $199 in a 7gallon regularly. He had a couple that looked pretty good so I jokingly told him Id give him $50 for one today. He stared at me and said, "how about $75?"
So I got this one for $75. Gonna leave it outside today since its 71 deg and maybe tonight since its going to be 60 over night then bring it inside for a few days. I have a nice spot picked out for in in front of a double window that gets plenty of indirect light.
We will see if I can keep it alive.
I tried to work with him on a lipstick palm but he would not budge. $499. No thanks
Posted on 1/30/26 at 6:13 pm to LanierSpots
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it will be hard to find a palm tree anywhere for sale this summer/
Expecting the same for many tropical fruit trees too. People will be looking to offload cold burned and damaged trees in the coming days. May be some deals to be had. I’ve already lost two. My potted Mahachanok and Pineapple Pleasure mangos bit the dust after the last cold front. Moving my few remaining inside the house tomorrow.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 6:24 pm to LanierSpots
Nice Chambeyronia. You got a great deal. Godspeed to both you and Wiltz. I'm ready for this, but I expected it. Low of 20F but I bet we hit 16-17F. Really pisses me off because I'm getting great fruit set on my Pickering.
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 1/31/26 at 4:05 am to Tigerlaff
3:57AM: power goes out, triggering my 120db alarm. 29F. Jump out of bed and sprint for the propane tanks. As I'm carrying them outside power comes back on at 3:59. Internet still out so no remote temp data coming in. Just bought a cellular hub on Amazon to avoid this situation in the future. @#$& this winter.
This post was edited on 1/31/26 at 4:39 am
Posted on 1/31/26 at 6:20 am to Tigerlaff
We are going to get it today. Wind, cold, probably some sharknados, hell who knows
We will fight either way
These should be fine here for a few days
We will fight either way
These should be fine here for a few days
This post was edited on 1/31/26 at 7:14 am
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:27 am to LanierSpots
Man those adonidias make such good container palms. Yours look great. My in-laws have one on their front porch in Mandeville 9a that has been in the same pot for 10+ years and comes inside for the entire winter. They give it zero care and it actually looks good. No supplemental lighting or anything. If I didn't have a trillion other things in pots I'd get one.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:37 am to Tigerlaff
They really grow fast here. Those pots are pretty good size and both those things have doubled in size in the last 12 months. I had another one in the same pot that I transplanted in the front yard a few months back. I had bought all 3 at the same time. When I laid the pot on its side to pull the tree out of the pot, there was nothing in the pot except roots. No dirt left. LOL. Only about 10" of soil on the top. Once I pulled it out, the pot was basically empty. I think these two are the same. My plan is to plant both of them in the ground in a few weeks once the weather stabalizes
I love having them. Such a easy tree and they look very tropical to me. '
They have a few black spots on the fronds but other than that, they seem to be fine. I bought some Daconil and I plan on spraying the leaves as well as my foxtails with it once things get back to normal. Ive never used it but a lot of people swear by it for fungus on palms. My foxtails have a little on them too. Other than water and fertilize, I have not done anything else to them
I love having them. Such a easy tree and they look very tropical to me. '
They have a few black spots on the fronds but other than that, they seem to be fine. I bought some Daconil and I plan on spraying the leaves as well as my foxtails with it once things get back to normal. Ive never used it but a lot of people swear by it for fungus on palms. My foxtails have a little on them too. Other than water and fertilize, I have not done anything else to them
Posted on 1/31/26 at 10:22 am to LanierSpots
Wind tore down the protective structure over my cecilove mango. No idea how long it was exposed, but temps were about 30F and it was still partially covered with the heat lamp and Christmas lights and in full sun. I think it was only exposed for about 10-15 minutes after a huge gust we had. Considering the sun/heat sources/partial exposure I'm calling this one a near miss. Went out and drove much deeper stakes into the ground to prevent it again. Very small young tree and not something that can afford any damage.
As we get ready for what should be the coldest night of the year, I'm focusing on the things that are going right.
Ruby supreme guava flowering in the greenhouse. Surprised by this since average temperatures have been around 50F.
Emperor lychee flowering like crazy. This thing is doing far better indoors than I expected. I think the brassinolide spray helped with that.
Flamethrower palm opening a new frond. Not old enough for the red fronds yet.
Kari starfruit hanging onto an absurd crop in the greenhouse. Even ripening some.
As we get ready for what should be the coldest night of the year, I'm focusing on the things that are going right.
Ruby supreme guava flowering in the greenhouse. Surprised by this since average temperatures have been around 50F.
Emperor lychee flowering like crazy. This thing is doing far better indoors than I expected. I think the brassinolide spray helped with that.
Flamethrower palm opening a new frond. Not old enough for the red fronds yet.
Kari starfruit hanging onto an absurd crop in the greenhouse. Even ripening some.
This post was edited on 1/31/26 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 1/31/26 at 5:49 pm to Tigerlaff
Nice. I dont know how you keep up with all that stuff. Very impressive. Hell, Im still learning what those things are. Ive never even tried the star fruit
I have two of these pots on my front porch. They have Baby sunrose that I grew in there from 4 cuttings in each pot. LOL. I love the sunrose, I have great success with it. I added some mandevilla and some Allamanda sprigs in the middle early last summer and they have taken off. I get constant white and yellow blooms in the middle and I have to cut the sunrose all the time to keep it off the ground. I recently made a huge cut back.
I didnt want the wind and cold to get to them so I just put some trash bags over them and bungied them to the bottom. This gonna be OK? I can roll these around and put them in the garage If I need to. Not a big deal. I dont want them to die.
Our temps are looking like 36-38 or lows for 3 days.
I have two of these pots on my front porch. They have Baby sunrose that I grew in there from 4 cuttings in each pot. LOL. I love the sunrose, I have great success with it. I added some mandevilla and some Allamanda sprigs in the middle early last summer and they have taken off. I get constant white and yellow blooms in the middle and I have to cut the sunrose all the time to keep it off the ground. I recently made a huge cut back.
I didnt want the wind and cold to get to them so I just put some trash bags over them and bungied them to the bottom. This gonna be OK? I can roll these around and put them in the garage If I need to. Not a big deal. I dont want them to die.
Our temps are looking like 36-38 or lows for 3 days.
This post was edited on 1/31/26 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:50 pm to LanierSpots
It's great hobby (9 months out of the year ). Starfruit is great IF you get the right variety. They fruit heavily even in pots. The flavor is citrusy and extremely refreshing. A chilled starfruit on a hot day is amazing. Tons of water content. The poor varities suck in my experience, along with any starfruit bought at the store.
I like those pots. 38F shouldn't be a major problem. My allamanda hates the cold but this is going to be over before yours will get too stressed.
). Starfruit is great IF you get the right variety. They fruit heavily even in pots. The flavor is citrusy and extremely refreshing. A chilled starfruit on a hot day is amazing. Tons of water content. The poor varities suck in my experience, along with any starfruit bought at the store. I like those pots. 38F shouldn't be a major problem. My allamanda hates the cold but this is going to be over before yours will get too stressed.
This post was edited on 1/31/26 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:36 am to Tigerlaff
Final readout at the coldest part of the day:
That's a W my guys.
Here's some data about adding hot water buckets. I knew that it was going to get stupid cold between midnight and 7:00am, so I waited until 11:30pm to put 30 gallons of hot water into the greenhouse in multiple 5 gallon buckets. I left the lids off of the buckets (important). So as you can see, it was 45.5F in the greenhouse (24F outside) when I added the buckets. The temperature climbed all the way to 54.4F by 1:00am and then slowly began to drop over the rest of the night. It did not fall back to the baseline where we started at 45.5F until 6:30am (19F outside). That's 7 hours of temperature mitigation over the coldest part of the night using nothing but hot water from the bath tub. The thermostat on the space heater was set at 55F, but it can't keep 120sqft of greenhouse at that temp on nights like this. This just shows you how effective this method is. The water levels everything out and holds it while the outside temp is plumetting. So when your power goes out or your gas heater malfunctions, the first move should be to run to the tub and fill some hot water buckets.
It's very important to leave the lids off of the buckets. Yes, the water will stay hot longer with a lid but the point of this exercise is to transfer the heat from the water to the air. A greenhouse full of warm buckets but cold air is not what you want. Let the water dump as much heat into the air as it can. They will work a lot longer than you think they will. Also, after they fall back to the baseline temp they will serve as a buffer of thermal mass, making it harder for the temperature in the greenhouse to fall further.
Until the past few years I never would have thought such a temperature differential (30+ degrees) was possible with a soft plastic popup greenhouse.
That's a W my guys.
Here's some data about adding hot water buckets. I knew that it was going to get stupid cold between midnight and 7:00am, so I waited until 11:30pm to put 30 gallons of hot water into the greenhouse in multiple 5 gallon buckets. I left the lids off of the buckets (important). So as you can see, it was 45.5F in the greenhouse (24F outside) when I added the buckets. The temperature climbed all the way to 54.4F by 1:00am and then slowly began to drop over the rest of the night. It did not fall back to the baseline where we started at 45.5F until 6:30am (19F outside). That's 7 hours of temperature mitigation over the coldest part of the night using nothing but hot water from the bath tub. The thermostat on the space heater was set at 55F, but it can't keep 120sqft of greenhouse at that temp on nights like this. This just shows you how effective this method is. The water levels everything out and holds it while the outside temp is plumetting. So when your power goes out or your gas heater malfunctions, the first move should be to run to the tub and fill some hot water buckets.
It's very important to leave the lids off of the buckets. Yes, the water will stay hot longer with a lid but the point of this exercise is to transfer the heat from the water to the air. A greenhouse full of warm buckets but cold air is not what you want. Let the water dump as much heat into the air as it can. They will work a lot longer than you think they will. Also, after they fall back to the baseline temp they will serve as a buffer of thermal mass, making it harder for the temperature in the greenhouse to fall further.
Until the past few years I never would have thought such a temperature differential (30+ degrees) was possible with a soft plastic popup greenhouse.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:11 am to Tigerlaff
Checking in from Apollo Beach here. It only got down to 31; but, the winds were the story here. Gusts in excess of 40+mph were recorded at my local weather station.
Just did a quick visual assessment. Most of the panicles have been wiped clean of any fruit set on my mango trees. A few are still hanging on. We won’t know the true extent of the damage for a few more days I suppose.
The interior part of the State got into the low 20’s. Likely to be catastrophic for many tropical tree growers. Decorative palms will be toast. Sadly; it’s expected to be even colder tonight.
Just did a quick visual assessment. Most of the panicles have been wiped clean of any fruit set on my mango trees. A few are still hanging on. We won’t know the true extent of the damage for a few more days I suppose.
The interior part of the State got into the low 20’s. Likely to be catastrophic for many tropical tree growers. Decorative palms will be toast. Sadly; it’s expected to be even colder tonight.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 9:16 am
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:22 am to wiltznucs
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only got down to 31
Honestly that's a decent outcome considering the alternate possibilities. You will likely get rebloom when you cut the empty panicles, especially if they aren't badly burned and you withhold water for a bit.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:23 am to Tigerlaff
I don’t mind starfruit; but, you are absolutely right that the varietal matters. Fwang Tung is an excellent one too. The trouble is they grow like wildfire here and produce super heavy. I just can’t eat enough of them and keep up with the trees. The running joke in Florida is that starfruit trees are the only variety you need exactly one of. More than that is a burden.
I also try to remind people that the sour varieties of carambola are quite high in oxalic acid. People with even mild kidney disease should probably avoid them.
I also try to remind people that the sour varieties of carambola are quite high in oxalic acid. People with even mild kidney disease should probably avoid them.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:30 am to Tigerlaff
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Honestly that's a decent outcome considering the alternate possibilities
Agreed; being relatively close to the coastline helped keep the worst of it from me. Light snow was seen in the areas north and east of Tampa. I suspect what fruit remains on the trees will likely abort in the coming weeks. With a bit of luck we’ll get another bloom. Let’s just hope that we don’t get another freeze. In years past we always tend to get one late cold spell as February draws to a close or even in early March. That being said; this year has been unlike anything I’ve seen in the past 20 years here. Record heat and drought during most of 25’ followed by near record lows and continued drought to start 26’.
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